Religion and Children's TV?

(96 Posts)
Insanityismymiddlename Sun 29-Sep-13 09:47:47

Just watching Mr Blooms nursery and the episode is about the harvest festival, children are singing "all things bright and beautiful" and thanking god for the harvest.

Surely if we aren't allowed to have religion in non dominational(sp?) Schools then it shouldn't be on a children's TV show.

I mean we aren't allowed to celebrate Christmas now a days its "happy holidays" so not to offend other cultures so why is this any different.

Not actually bothered myself we aren't a christian household and have our own religions but just live and let live, I just think its a weird contradiction, AIBU?

sooperdooper Sun 29-Sep-13 09:52:28

Cbeebies refer to a variety of cultural/ religious festivals, not just Christianity - they mentioned Eid too, it's allowed if its not only one particular religion I think

FeckOffCup Sun 29-Sep-13 09:55:28

Is there such a thing as a non denominational school, I thought they all included some form of worship. And have you actually experienced christmas being banned in favour of "happy holidays" because that sounds like daily mail xenophobic bullshit to me.

Sirzy Sun 29-Sep-13 09:57:47

I think its great the way that they cover events from a lot of different religions and cultures. Even if children are being raised in that religion then knowing about other peoples beliefs is a good thing.

SchrodingersFanny Sun 29-Sep-13 09:59:39

Er, the education Act specifically says religion should be in schools, in the form of daily act of worship and RE. It should be broadly Christian and then also represent the wider religious community.

Insanityismymiddlename Sun 29-Sep-13 10:00:45

My childrens school is non denominational and I must admit I would be upset if I learned they had sang hymns or thanked "GOD" for any other reason than learning it in RE as I believe its down to the parents to teach religous ways if they believe in something, not the schools.

SooperDooper good point just today it was centred very much about Christianity and thought it was a bit much, not much of a fair balance where usually its a case of some people believe this and some believe that IYSWIM?

EduCated Sun 29-Sep-13 10:01:19

I mean we aren't allowed to celebrate Christmas now a days its "happy holidays" so not to offend other cultures so why is this any different.

That is complete Daily Fail bollocks. And schools have to do religion.

Sirzy Sun 29-Sep-13 10:03:16

It would be centred around Christianity because it was about a Christian festival confused

Sallyingforth Sun 29-Sep-13 10:04:07

Never mind OP. Your kids will soon be watching Dr Who, and that implicitly excludes any possibility of a God.

Insanityismymiddlename Sun 29-Sep-13 10:04:42

SIRZY thats a very good point I agree children should learn about all other religions.

Sparklymommy Sun 29-Sep-13 10:05:08

Not too sure why you think religion isn't, and shouldn't be in schools. My own children go to a church school, however they have also covered Diwali, Eid, Hannukah, and many other religious festivals as well as learning about reincarnation, different places of worship etc etc.

To NOT learn about others religions breeds ignorance, fear and opens the doors for radicalism.

Have a biscuit

op read the education act, the bit about collective worship
oh and stop spouting ignorant and untrue daily mail bollocks it makes you come across a bit hard of thinking.

CMP69 Sun 29-Sep-13 10:05:46

In our non church state school there is very much a Christian teaching much to my atheist DH's disgust
We have Christmas Easter Harvest and all the hymns to go with it grin

EduCated Sun 29-Sep-13 10:05:50

Is Harvest Festival even really that Christian? I know churches celebrate it, but the end of the harvest is generally celebrated in most cultures and religions. Obviously the hymn was Christian, but I don't see Harvest as being so overtly and exclusively Christian.

CSIJanner Sun 29-Sep-13 10:06:26

I agree. No more Christmas on Cbeebies, and that Easter Bunny can hop right off hmm

YABU. It was a piece about a Christian festival with a Christian hymn.

StitchingMoss Sun 29-Sep-13 10:07:30

Insanity, your kids should by law be having a daily act of Christian worship. Tis a stupid law but there u go.

"I mean we aren't allowed to celebrate Christmas now a days its "happy holidays" so not to offend other cultures so why is this any different. "

Who isn't allowed to celebrate Christmas? Here in the UK we are confused.

StitchingMoss Sun 29-Sep-13 10:08:10

CSI, there's nothing religious about the Easter bunny!

CSIJanner Sun 29-Sep-13 10:10:45

EduCated - you're right. It's been celebrated since pagan times for a successful harvest, however, for centuries now, its been celebrated in this country as a Christian festival.

Stitching - I know. I trying to be a wit and landed on my arse...

Harvest festival, like every other festival was taken over by the Christians, because people wanted a good old booze up (or whatever else they indulged in), at the times they were used to, hence the re-naming of every festival that exhausted long before Christianity or Islam ( or whatever you believe in).

Stravy Sun 29-Sep-13 10:11:08

I mean we aren't allowed to celebrate Christmas now a days its "happy holidays" so not to offend other cultures so why is this any different.

Says who? Never come across this and I lived in Birmingham during the 'winterval' thingy where the Daily Mail was spouting bollocks and there was a massive nativity above Broad Street

"Existed" not exhausted, but that sums up Christmas nicely, I suppose.

PedlarsSpanner Sun 29-Sep-13 10:13:02

Happy holidays is utter nonsense, stop spouting rubbish or give us evidence of ths claim

crescentmoon Sun 29-Sep-13 10:13:30

actually i was sad to learn my children's current school sing 'thank you WORLD for everything' instead of the harvest songs id grown up with as a child.

pile of ignorant shit stirry goady ill thought bollocks.

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