To be seriously considering building my own house?

(55 Posts)
ziggiestardust Mon 09-Sep-13 16:56:53

Am I completely out of my mind?

I'm not talking about restoration, I'm talking about properly buying a plot of land and building a house.

Do people really do this? I'm just starting to wonder how ill ever reasonably afford a decent house otherwise. It seems like you get a lot more for your money, and you get exactly what you want too.

Has anyone done this?

FatPenguin Mon 09-Sep-13 18:52:52

Wow at the Oakwrights houses shock

I would love to build my own house. OH and I always say if we win the lottery we would buy land in Bath and design our own home.
If you are clear on all the costs, regulations/planning permission etc then why not?

ziggiestardust Mon 09-Sep-13 18:53:57

But I think it's nigh on impossible to get PP on arable land, isn't it?

Theincidental Mon 09-Sep-13 18:59:08

You can look for plots on plotfinder and through local auctioneers: kivells are good in Cornwall. Homebuilding and renovating have some useful online guides too. You can also a free appointment with an architect to discuss options and they can also help you with site selection if you have a plot in mind.

An architect is good value for money, as they can help get the most from your budget, have very good local planning knowledge and your build can be protected with Insurance and warranty.

Pm for more local info if you'd like OP as I'm down your way.

Squitten Mon 09-Sep-13 19:02:20

I have watched too many Grand Designs would love to build my own house but we're bloody awful at basic decorating so I think we'll wait a while...

mamabrownbear Mon 09-Sep-13 19:06:36

We are contemplating it. We've got some money saved up but don't want huge monthly payments, especially on a house where we've had to compromise on size plus we might find a house we like at the top of our budget and get knocked out by someone who can offer another £10k. That could happen time and time again so it would be cheaper and less heart breaking to build. Yes a lot of work, yes a lot of stress but in the end you get exactly what you want...don't you?

ziggiestardust Mon 09-Sep-13 19:09:15

Oh theincidental thank you SO much for that!! I'm ever so grateful.

Is there any mileage in buying arable land and just going for PP if you have the luxury of time? I'm only thinking that recently, farm land has been bought up by big companies (Taylor Wimpey et al) and turned into huge developments.

There is a massive housing shortage where I live.

Worth the risk? Or should I just pay extra and go for the plot with at least outline PP?

ziggiestardust Mon 09-Sep-13 19:10:20

Add message | Report | Message poster mamabrownbear Mon 09-Sep-13 19:06:36
We are contemplating it. We've got some money saved up but don't want huge monthly payments, especially on a house where we've had to compromise on size plus we might find a house we like at the top of our budget and get knocked out by someone who can offer another £10k. That could happen time and time again so it would be cheaper and less heart breaking to build. Yes a lot of work, yes a lot of stress but in the end you get exactly what you want...don't you?

This. This EXACTLY is why I want to build.

Tinlegs Mon 09-Sep-13 19:14:01

We did. Oops!

Theincidental Mon 09-Sep-13 19:14:44

It depends on where the land is. Permitted development rights re changing to include areas in the outskirts of towns/villages that includes some agricultural land.

Lmd in Cornwall can at a premium depending where, some towns like polzeath/rock can be upwards of 250k.

Sometimes a knock down rebuild can be a solution and easier with planning, though it adds costs in other ways.

CailinDana Mon 09-Sep-13 19:15:06

From what I've heard building is real minefield. If you have good builders/contractors then it's great but one cowboy can send the whole thing tits up. It can be great but don't underestimate what a huge project it is.

D0G Mon 09-Sep-13 19:21:58

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ziggiestardust Mon 09-Sep-13 19:23:35

Oh cailin I absolutely don't. For that reason I'd go for a turnkey self build with a large company. I'm sure there are loads of really great builders and contractors out there, but I wouldn't really want to go down that route.

theincidental I'm not anywhere near those areas grin not rich enough for that!!

Plomino Mon 09-Sep-13 19:23:41

I live in the fens , and people do it here a lot , as land is relatively cheap , so you get a lot of plot for your money . My house is a self build , as are about 50 percent of the houses in our tiny village of about 70 houses . My neighbours are all individual self builds too , some of which we have watched go up , and some are obviously better planned than others . The most successful ones as far as we can tell are those who really really thought what they wanted , and then told the architect everything . Potten houses seem to be very popular here too .

D0G Mon 09-Sep-13 19:24:07

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ziggiestardust Mon 09-Sep-13 19:25:18

Oh really D0G? Now that's interesting. I'd definitely get myself on site as much as possible to lend a hand/be a general dogsbody. I suppose it would make sense that would save money.

Plomino Mon 09-Sep-13 19:26:15

As for getting planning for arable land , I know that here you won't get planning permission for grade 1 arable any more , because one of my farming neighbours tried and got basically laughed out of the planning department .

ziggiestardust Mon 09-Sep-13 19:26:46

Yes not sure I'd buy land without PP, was just a thought. Although I suppose you'd then have to pay out for connection of services.

D0G Mon 09-Sep-13 19:31:52

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Beaverfeaver Mon 09-Sep-13 19:44:37

If I could I would in a heartbeat.

If I had the money and a plot wasn't available, I would then buy a run down building and either knock it down and start from scratch or redevelop it.

Oh the dream!

quoteunquote Mon 09-Sep-13 20:24:48

www.carpenteroak.com/

for those of you who like the oak frame.

I build, don't buy without planning, it would be silly.

www.huf-haus.com/en/home.html

^^ brilliant kit houses

Theincidental Mon 09-Sep-13 20:32:08

Sky space is beautiful d0g!

OP I'd start keeping an eye out for sites through the auction lists and estate agents if you are serious. Like I said, you can get architect's opinion on the possibilities of what planning permission the council would be likely to agree for an area. It's true that so much of the Cornish coast is designated aonb or ssi, but houses still get built! There are ways of creating a convincing application that meets the planning dept criteria and housing needs.

There is a lot going on in Cornwall on the construction side and if you scour through their website you might find some useful tips and potential funding sources too... Like the empty homes scheme.

You've missed this year but there's "get Cornwall building" event hosted by the council and "green Cornwall" which both focus on advice to potential home builders. Also coming up is the self build and design show in Exeter which might be worth a good mosey to get inspiration and find out more about the process. Free advice sessions and q and a with various suppliers.

throckenholt Tue 10-Sep-13 09:43:56

As far as I am aware the only people who can get planning permission on arable land are farmers and the building then has agricultural restrictions on it - ie only people with agricultural connections can live there. The local farmers used to do it quite often.

Otherwise, pretty much you don't get permission for small building projects on arable land (only big developments where they build a whole estate). So you really want to keep an eye out for a building plot with outline planning permission. And be aware that mortgages can be tricky - they won't lend you much on the idea - you have to have something of value which can cover the value of the mortgage should you go bankrupt and they need to get their money back.

ziggiestardust Tue 10-Sep-13 12:40:01

I've been puzzling over the idea of a knock down/re build actually. There's a little 2 bed place for sale nearby for £150k on a big plot. Next door to it are currently extending (massively as well), and every house in the area is totally different. In the mean time, it is very liveable. Newish kitchen and bathroom, nice sized rooms. Definitely worth a further look?

GibberTheMonkey Tue 10-Sep-13 12:42:58

I thought about this
Mins fault actually as I 'know' a blogger from here who built themselves a beautiful house

mistlethrush Tue 10-Sep-13 12:47:24

ziggie - I'm a planning consultant and regularly help clients on whether a certain piece of land has any chance of gaining consent or a house has a chance of extension etc... Planning does control significantly - but without it suburbia would be significantly larger and our 'green and pleasant land' wouldn't be as good as it remains.

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