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to think that a hca shouldnt tell me all assylum seekers should go home?

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In hospital. Hca brought me tea then proceeded to pick uup my newspaper and flick.through it. She said she wanted to see what it said about assylum seekers. Then said yes yes thats what I think they should all be sent home. The lot of them.

I just ignored her. I feel like shit and don't have the energy for an argument. I feel guilty now I didn't say anything.

MrsDeVere Fri 06-Sep-13 20:20:54

No, sorry, its still offensive to refer to someone in this way.

She has a job
She is a trained professional.
She may not be on high wages but she probably isn't on NMW.

She isn't bottom of the heap.

Asylum seekers...they are bottom of the heap. No money, no jobs, no recourse to public funds and even when people make offensive comments about them its ok.

limitedperiodonly Fri 06-Sep-13 20:31:27

I tell you what would be nice. It would be if people said what an HCA was, rather than assuming that those of us who don't work in the industry knew what it was.

I get similarly frustrated when people talk about PALS and other confusing jargon.

You could also talk about what the banding was so I understood what this woman earned.

I really don't want to defend racists but I do understand why people at the bottom of the heap fight amongst themselves rather than banding together.

hettienne Fri 06-Sep-13 20:31:30

She can hold any opinion she wants.

She just can't impose it on vulnerable patients while she is at work.

If you want to rant about asylum seekers, do it in your own time.

MrsDeVere Fri 06-Sep-13 20:47:54

Who is at the bottom of the heap and why do you assume they are the ones fighting amongst themselves?

Nigel Farage is a well known Xenaphobe and Nick Griffin is a big fat racist.
Both are doing pretty well for themselves.

I don't like the assumption that people who object to racist/xenophobic twats are somehow removed from the real world.

I live in an area with loads of immigration, lots of asylum seekers as well as established communities. I don't hate immigrants or want asylum seekers sent home.

limitedperiodonly Fri 06-Sep-13 21:06:57

Asylum seekers...they are bottom of the heap. No money, no jobs, no recourse to public funds and even when people make offensive comments about them its ok.

I understand what asylum means and I'm disappointed that you don't seem to get that, because in previous posts on many threads I've expressed that.

Also I've expressed my disgust at the way benefit claimants of all kinds are vilified.

Maybe you haven't noticed. But why should you hang on my every post?

However from now on please be assured that I do understand quite deeply and I'd like you to note that from now on.

However, I maintain that people who feel they are at the bottom of the heap lash out, usually at the wrong targets.

I find that really frustrating.

But is it so hard to understand?

Pobblewhohasnotoes Fri 06-Sep-13 21:14:55

What is it with this bottom of the heap stuff?

ilovesooty Fri 06-Sep-13 22:34:38

How is PALS "confusing jargon"?

Ty pixie still in, struggling this eve but overall been better today.

Misspixietrix Sat 07-Sep-13 06:41:29

Aww hope you get to come home soon flowers glad your starting to feel better. Have they started you on Steroids?

SPBisResisting Sat 07-Sep-13 06:55:58

How are you feeling giraffes

ChestyNut Sat 07-Sep-13 09:22:23

HCAs are not "bottom" of the heap and do a very valuable job and don't get paid minimum wage in hospitals.

Stop making excuses for why this persons behaviour was acceptable. It wasn't.

limited PALS is patient advice liaison service.
HCA is healthcare assistant and in hospital the work on the wards assisting the qualified staff but often do majority of the hard slog as qualified nurses are so tied up with paperwork and discharges.

Yeah been on steroids since wed. And atrovent, salbutamol and saline nebs. And singulair and potassium and flixotide and seretide and magnesium one drip.

Waiting to see dr this morning.

SPBisResisting Sat 07-Sep-13 10:42:47

thinking about you x

EduCated Sat 07-Sep-13 10:43:55

So if the person in the bed next to Giraffes was an asylum seeker, would that be ok for the HCA to say it? Or if Giraffes had an asylum seeker DP?

Aside from the fact that we don't have freedom of speech, it does not give you the right to say potentially offensive things unsolicited when you are representing the NHS and caring for sick and vulnerable people.

EduCated Sat 07-Sep-13 10:44:46

(Also get bloody better giraffes! Sending healthy chest vibes in your general direction thanks

Misspixietrix Sat 07-Sep-13 15:42:30

Dds been happily wheezing away but theres no point taking her down because will get told the same as next time. OP you havent heard it from me but GP always told me that they believe (I appreciate all practice differently but still think Its worth mentioning) that giving steroids without abs for an asthma exacerbation can make things worse. I only know this because GP went batshit at an OOH once for sending Dd home with just this and she ended up back down the Doctors worse sad hAve you had visitors OP? Keep your spirits up smile flowers

Misspixietrix Sat 07-Sep-13 15:44:20

Last time not next Sorry (was told she looked too Well to do anything for her despite her heartrate sky high and her chest working ten to a dozen) ~

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