To argue with my DH because he is WRONG.

(96 Posts)
BoozyBear Mon 02-Sep-13 21:23:40

DH seems to have some issue over the use of "this" and "next" for naming days in the week.

To me NEXT Thursday is the 12th. THIS Thursday is the 5th.

DH disagrees, he says NEXT Thursday and means the 5th

We have been arguing about this for years and my BFF agrees with me but he says we're trying to confuse him! Obviously it has caused some problems when talking about plans but he he refuses to believe us that he has it wrong.

So if someone says Next Thursday to you, which do you automatically assume they mean? 5th or 12th?

Alisvolatpropiis Tue 03-Sep-13 07:54:14

LadyMac

Captain Vague or what?! grin

Love your username btw.

Lazyjaney Tue 03-Sep-13 07:55:58

I agree with the op but ive come across quite a few people who use her dh's convention ( next, following) too.

BlazinStoke Tue 03-Sep-13 07:57:17

I'm with you OP but have never met anyone who thinks the same way - glad that according to this thread that I am right and everyone else in RL is wrong smile

lottiegarbanzo Tue 03-Sep-13 08:15:48

You are right. Sounds like it is your DH's problem though and he's the one not concerned about communicating clearly with his friend.

I was going to suggest 'Thursday week', I used to hear that a lot as a child and don't now. That could be to do with a move from the north east to East Midlands, mixing with many southern people but I think it's more an old-fashioned British useage not used by Americans, so not heard on TV so much.

But essentially, this week / next week so this Thursday / next Thursday.

HerbWoman Tue 03-Sep-13 09:37:40

I'm mostly with your DH. 5th would be this Thursday and 12th would be a week on Thursday. If it were Friday today though, the 12th would be next Thursday as it would be the next one we come to. For today, as Thursday is only 2 days away, it would just be Thursday. "I'll do it on Thursday." But I know people have different ways of saying it so it's just easier to clarify which one at the time.

ToysRLuv Tue 03-Sep-13 11:21:28

In my native language/culture "next" would mean literally the next. Not next week. That used to confuse me a lot when I first came here..

Same with the time. "Half" meaning half past instead of half of/to.

Sunnysummer Tue 03-Sep-13 11:24:22

YANBU, he is a madman, who must be astonishingly gifted and/or lucky to have survived so long despite such a fundamental chronological malfunctioning.

Spindelina Tue 03-Sep-13 11:39:48

Can you settle our argument too? When is "this Monday" (today being Tuesday)? Is that yesterday (as in Monday of this week) or the Monday in six days' time?

ToysRLuv Tue 03-Sep-13 12:05:53

"This Monday" in Britain would be the Monday in 6 days, I guess?

nickelbabe Tue 03-Sep-13 12:07:09

THIS Thursday is the Thursday of this week.
NEXT Thursday is the Thursday of next week.

nickelbabe Tue 03-Sep-13 12:09:47

arguments about "the next Thursday to happen"

then it's the next Thursday, not Next Thursday.

Tiredemma Tue 03-Sep-13 12:10:27

Im with you.

mrsbeano Tue 03-Sep-13 12:10:44

To add confusion, my DH says Thursday week to describe what I would call next Thursday (12th). Everytime I say next Thursday, we have to clarify.

Bloody Irish ;-)

nickelbabe Tue 03-Sep-13 12:12:49

DadDadDad your bus analogy doesn't work, because there has been a bus preceding the one you're waiting for.

it's "this bus" if you can see the bus and "the next bus" if you can't.

nickelbabe Tue 03-Sep-13 12:14:03

Sundays start the week, so next monday is the 9th

nickelbabe Tue 03-Sep-13 12:14:30

this monday is yesterday, because it was This Monday

fackinell Tue 03-Sep-13 12:14:34

I had a problem with this in Fife, where they seem to say next for this one and next again for the following one. Had a shift change disaster with that one!

LegoLegoEverywhere Tue 03-Sep-13 12:50:56

Nancy not sure anyone has answered you.

Yes 'last July' is July 2012. July 2013 is 'July just gone'.

CHJR Tue 03-Sep-13 12:51:01

Not with you, OP. To me "next Thursday" means the very next Thursday that comes, whether today is Sunday or Thursday or Friday. "This Thursday" must be the Thursday within this same week, whether it's already hit (ie I'm speaking on Friday) or not yet (we're Tuesday now). Americans started using "next" and "this" in the distinct meanings OP suggests in the 1960s, but it didn't become common in British English till the 80s or 90s. In our house we are stubbornly old-fashioned and always refer to the Thursday beyond "this" Thursday as "Thursday week," which does I fear make me sound like my own MiL wink and usually it degenerates to getting out of the calendar and looking up the date. You should see the confusion that can ensue if anyone makes the mistake of saying "pants" or "chips" in our mixed household grin

DadDadDad Tue 03-Sep-13 12:51:46

nickel - er, but there's been a Thursday preceding the 5th (it was last week).

I think you've missed the logic of my analogy. OP in a later post said:

"next means immediately adjacent or following.

for it to be adjacent/following, there has to be one for it to be adjacent to/following."

So argument is that there are two Thursdays in the future (5th and 12th as we speak), so 12th has to be the next by virtue of following something else. (I can't quite see why that "something else" could not be last Thursday, so that next Thursday would then be 5th).

If there are future buses due in 10 minutes and 30 minutes, OP's logic would be that "catch the next bus" would refer to waiting 30 minutes, as it follows something else. I think we would agree that "next bus" would refer to the 10 minute one (currently out of sight).

Again, I feel it is natural to talk about 12th as next Thursday, so all I'm saying is it's not a question of logic, just one of agreed convention.

Moment of revelation: is it that we think of 5th as THIS Thursday because we feel like we can "see" it - it's in this week - just as we say THIS bus for the bus we can see, and NEXT bus for one behind.

DuchessFanny Tue 03-Sep-13 12:56:16

My DH and I argue about this too, both my DH and your DH are wrong. We are right.

That feels good ! < goes to show DH>

nancerama Tue 03-Sep-13 13:02:01

You are right. My DH agrees with your DH - he is wrong. DH cooked a massive roast dinner for 7 people 2 weeks running because of this kind of foolishness.

nickelbabe Tue 03-Sep-13 13:15:01

Daddaddad - you know that's a silly argument, don't you?

anyway, you oculd also argue that you've said "the next bus", so by adding a definite article, you are saying it's the next thing that happens, in bus terms.

same as saying "the next Thursday" takes you to the next thursday that will happen.

Your husband fills me with uncontrollable rage.

TheOriginalSteamingNit Tue 03-Sep-13 13:35:32

It's next thursday because it's happening next week! This is this week (or does he think this is next week?). Daddaddad's theories are ingenious, but that's because they have to be, because it's wrong! grin.

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