To be gutted I cannot take on this telesales manager

(37 Posts)
Arnie123 Thu 29-Aug-13 15:59:03

I run a cleaning company and woman phoned me today wanting a telesales job. Her experience was absolutely brilliant but she wanted23k per annum. My business is only a year old and currently only generates me 800 a month. I told husband we could stop taking a salary as I did not in the first year and just pile 900 a month out of the tax credits and my dla into the business. Husband has gone ape and said we cannot afford her. Gutted

EvaBeaversProtege Thu 29-Aug-13 17:03:40

Is dla for a disability?

TedMoseby Thu 29-Aug-13 17:04:41

If she's that good then she's seriously underselling herself in a sales job, never mind the HUUUGE red flags she's given you re. her disciplinary and the fact that she wants a job that you're not offering.

BrokenSunglasses Thu 29-Aug-13 17:24:35

There will be reasons her boss doesn't like her. Bosses don't look to get rid of good employees that generate excellent sales for no reason, even if they don't like them.

I'm not surprised your DH went apeshit at your suggestion!

Arnie,

I run my own business and I took on somebody not unlike the woman you describe. I don't want to tell the whole story on here in case I out myself, but please feel free to PM me.

The bottom line is that you don't need to hire her. She cannot pay her own salary for you this year and she will want about 8% commission of her sales on top of it. Do your OWN sales and earn yourself 23k this year. The needs of a small start-up like yours are VERY different from an established business and she almost certainly will not understand that.

Picturesinthefirelight Thu 29-Aug-13 17:39:54

Don't forget you'll have employers NI on top of that to pay too

If she was that desperate for a job shed accept the reduced hours.

Coconutty Thu 29-Aug-13 17:44:02

I was going to say offer her a small basic and commission based deal. See how good she thinks she really is.

HappyMummyOfOne Thu 29-Aug-13 17:54:54

Im not surprised your husband went mad either. Your business cant afford her in any shape or form, bad form on her part to apply for a job where she wants more than offered as it wastes everybodies time. Same as those who apply full time with no intention of working full time hours.

As an aside, tax credits and DLA are not meant to be spent in that way. If you dont need the £900 a month you could spare for this them dont claim it.

Arnie123 Thu 29-Aug-13 18:07:06

Naanbread thank you for your post I am using Mumsnet on my mobile so do not know how to pm you. Could you pm me and perhaps I will be able to access that.
Thank you everyone for your responses I realise I was being a prat now but she did a good sales number on me!

QueenofallIsee Fri 30-Aug-13 12:27:46

Don't do it OP - you do NOT need someone with that level of experience, you can't afford it and you won't get a return on your investment for quite some time

Inertia Fri 30-Aug-13 12:38:55

Even if every single sales call she made generated new business, you still physically couldn't work the number of hours you'd need to pay her wages! Ploughing family money into the business (DLA , tax credits) would be crazy (and perhaps even legally dubious?). Your husband is absolutely right.

Without wishing to be disrespectful, perhaps your business would benefit more if you spent the money on some kind of basic business management course?

Oldraver Fri 30-Aug-13 14:51:19

What others have said..I also think you are on shakey ground (and morally wrong to boot) to put yourself purposely in a position (ploughing all your Tax Credits and any possible income) toward this woman. Meaning you have no income and will again claim TC you are not entitled to.

Tabliope Fri 30-Aug-13 15:12:02

Arnie - It would be a very bad move to hire her. To pay someone a £23k a year salary for bringing in sales surely you'd want a massive turnover (I can't even begin to guess how much - £100k at least?). Depending on where you live, if it's a cleaning company you have you'd reach a point where no further sales could be drummed up. Then what? You have someone on your books that you're paying out for but can't bring in anymore business? Plus all the cleaners you'd have to hire to actually do the work. Naan had the best idea - drum up your own sales in these early days.

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