to think Caroline Lucas is fantastic

(59 Posts)
kim147 Tue 20-Aug-13 19:22:09

What with her recent contribution to the Page 3 debate in the House of Commons and her recent arrest at a sit in about fracking - she's just great.

You might not agree with her politics but she certainly has passion.

TeaAndABiscuit Tue 20-Aug-13 19:27:43

Yeah, I'm a fan. Good to see a conviction politician taking direct action.

Icedink Tue 20-Aug-13 19:35:13

She's awesome!

Biscuitsareme Tue 20-Aug-13 19:40:55

Agree!

CharlieAlphaKiloEcho Tue 20-Aug-13 19:41:48

For the most part I am a fan.

However (and this is probably true of most politicians) she has such passion for her green issues that she devotes very little time to the problems her constituents face if they don't have a green aspect to them.

I had such high hopes for her too. I hope she manages to find a balance as she does try.

Yep, also agree.

It looked like the police did not act well yesterday. Glad the cameras were there to film her.

I do like her smile Was very glad when she got voted in

MiniTheMinx Tue 20-Aug-13 19:48:11

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZrINcEnNZE here she is making a speech to the crowd at Balcombe.

hardboiledpossum Tue 20-Aug-13 19:55:04

I think she is wonderful.

VerySmallSqueak Tue 20-Aug-13 21:00:22

I am impressed by all the people who are out there taking part in non violent direct action against fracking.

Caroline Lucas has gone (even further) up in my estimation as a result of her stand.

propertyNIGHTmareBEFOREXMAS Tue 20-Aug-13 21:02:44

She has stood up hard and fast for what she believes in. Massive respect to her.

MiniTheMinx Tue 20-Aug-13 22:05:39

Her son was arrested too, picture in my facebook feed shows the police pinching at his face. The police were picking individuals off to arrest yesterday, mostly known activists. They were also pictured kneeling on one man's head when they already had him restrained.

What I didn't realise until watching the Vid of Caroline Lucas, is just how many wells would have to be built and the density. This is a disaster.

Here is a chart showing all the links btw government officials elected and non-elected that are benefiting directly and indirectly. www.permaculture.co.uk/news/0808133697/politics-and-business-revolving-doors

VerySmallSqueak Tue 20-Aug-13 22:12:01

Usual standards from the police then, it seems.

Why am I not surprised........?

flatpackhamster Wed 21-Aug-13 08:28:15

I think any MP who stands up for what they believe in should be applauded. Even if they're a deranged communist like Caroline Lucas.

VerySmallSqueak Wed 21-Aug-13 08:33:32

That's a comment straight out of the 1980's if ever I heard one flatpack.
I thought we were past squealing about Reds under our beds nowadays?

flatpackhamster Wed 21-Aug-13 09:14:52

VerySmallSqueak
That's a comment straight out of the 1980's if ever I heard one flatpack.

So an ideological stance is OK when it's a far-left one espoused by a far left politician, but not when it isn't?

I thought we were past squealing about Reds under our beds nowadays?

Just because the Soviet Union collapsed it didn't mean all the lunatics in the West who supported it packed up their copies of Pravda and said "Well, turns out we were wrong, best join the grown ups and support a free market democratic system." No. They found new religions to support, including ecomentalism. Hence the Greens' transformation in the 1990s from a cuddly environmental lobby to a socialist party.

I just wish they'd be honest and change their party logo to the hammer and sickle.

MiniTheMinx Wed 21-Aug-13 09:23:32

Flatpack, for once I actually agree with you. To some extent left-wing politics is fractured, a product of liberalism.

flatpackhamster Wed 21-Aug-13 09:42:46

MiniTheMinx

Flatpack, for once I actually agree with you. To some extent left-wing politics is fractured, a product of liberalism.

No, it's a product of lefties fighting like cats in a sack.

bemybebe Wed 21-Aug-13 09:58:53

I must agree, whilst green causes are very close to my heart, Caroline Lucas with her communist ideology chills my blood. I might have thought differently have I not lived in the Soviet Union in the 80s, but I have too much experience of growing up in the socialist paradise, so, no, but thank you very much...

I don't think MP's should be putting themselves in a position where they could get arrested I'm afraid. Smacks of PR stunt to me.

flatpackhamster Wed 21-Aug-13 13:30:38

Did anyone see the article at Kernel Mag - "I met the Fracking Protestors"??

Very interesting.

VerySmallSqueak Wed 21-Aug-13 14:10:39

It's always been someone's job to try to discredit any protest group.

Obviously,flatpack I realise that the article you linked to isn't one that you believe is impartial and representative,because I know that you are way too clever for that!

MiniTheMinx Wed 21-Aug-13 14:15:50

I wouldn't wish the results of this nice little mixture on anyone, I don't know what the results are of mixing this lot and pumping it at high pressure into the ground. Do you? I don't think anyone really knows what the long term environmental effects of this will be.

Hydrochloric Acid
Quaternary Ammonium Chloride
Quaternary Ammonium Chloride
Tetrakis Hydroxymethyl-Phosphonium Sulfate
Ammonium Persulfate
Sodium Chloride
Magnesium Peroxide
Magnesium Oxide
Calcium Chloride
Choline Chloride
Tetramethyl ammonium chloride
Sodium Chloride
Isopropanol
Methanol
Formic Acid
Acetaldehyde
Petroleum Distillate
Hydrotreated Light Petroleum Distillate
Potassium Metaborate
Triethanolamine Zirconate
Sodium Tetraborate
Boric Acid
Zirconium Complex
Borate Salts
Ethylene Glycol
Methanol
Polyacrylamide
Petroleum Distillate
Hydrotreated Light Petroleum Distillate
Methanol
Ethylene Glycol
Guar Gum
Petroleum Distillate
Hydrotreated Light Petroleum Distillate
Methanol
Ethylene Glycol
Citric Acid
Acetic Acid
Thioglycolic Acid
Sodium Erythorbate
Lauryl Sulfate
Isopropanol
Ethylene Glycol
Sodium Hydroxide
Potassium Hydroxide
Acetic Acid
Sodium Carbonate
Copolymer of Acrylamide and
Phosphonic Acid Salt
Lauryl Sulfate
Ethanol
Naphthalene
Methanol
Isopropyl Alcohol
2-Butoxyethanol

bobbywash Wed 21-Aug-13 14:34:03

There is a difference between the protest group and the green party, the green manifesto on transport is totally unworkable and the party on that front are living in cloud cuckoo land. In fact if you look at most of their policies they are the one's that the "looney left" of the labour party gave up 20 odd years ago.

As for Caroline Lucas, well just another MP with an arrest record, and a cause to stick her name to. The police were also using pressure point techniques to remove her son from the site and that was quite clear. They were given a job to do, so did it. I don't agree with the way the police are used by whichever party is in power but that's a whole new debate.

VerySmallSqueak Wed 21-Aug-13 14:46:35

I think the fact that Caroline Lucas joined this direct action has been so helpful because she is in the public eye. I think that it is something that someone in the public eye would not do lightly,particularly if involved in politics.

The party she identifies with is actually quite irrelevant to me,and there are protestors there from across the political spectrum.

The fact that she is happy to stand up and be counted as a public figure is what impresses me.

As for the police tactics - well,that is a whole new debate,and one that's very over due. I think so many of us are so fed up with the excuses and lack of accountability.Finally I am hoping that the public are seeing tactics used over the last few years for what they are - bully boy techniques to silence dissent.

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