To think that describing someone as 'hipster'...

(200 Posts)
ElleMcFearsome Wed 07-Aug-13 09:45:41

... Is not remotely as derogatory as describing them as 'chavvy'?

Had DHs long term friend and his wife over recently. A mutual friend asked how they were and I said words to the effect of 'oh X (male half of the couple) is utter bliss as ever. I adore him, he's so hipster!' She recoiled in horror and told me that I couldn't use 'hipster' to describe someone as it was as bad as saying someone is 'chavvy' (though, obviously with completely different meanings). FWIW it would never cross my mind to describe someone as 'chavvy' as for me it has unpleasant connotations.

X is in his 40s, I'm late 30s. X works in tech, is v stylish, wears clothing brands that will be fashionable in a years time, is a real muso, can talk for whole minutes about which coffee he prefers, is off beat and cool and adorable and good fun... which equates to hipster in my mind.

MN - am I using the word wrongly? Has 'hipster' acquired a derogatory meaning? Help!

Nagoo Wed 07-Aug-13 10:05:07

Agree it's a bit nobbish but no way near as bad as chavvy and all the connotations that has. I've not seen anyone on Jezza Kyle with ironic glasses and a retro-tache...

Lanceolate Wed 07-Aug-13 10:11:04
WeleaseWodger Wed 07-Aug-13 10:13:11

I thought it meant a pretentious, trendy twat found in hackney and Dalston (east London). But mild enough to actually say to someone's face. As opposed to chav.

DoJo Wed 07-Aug-13 10:19:27

If anyone droned on at me about which coffee they preferred for more than the 2 seconds it takes to give me a brand name, then they deserve to be insulted to my mind. There's a reason why the terms 'hipster' and 'douchebag' go together...

ElleMcFearsome Wed 07-Aug-13 10:24:51

Ok - the general consensus seems to be that IABU. Happy to take that on board grin

Any other no-longer-innocent phrases/descriptors I should be avoiding?

WilsonFrickett Wed 07-Aug-13 10:46:04
mrsjay Wed 07-Aug-13 10:49:54

oh good god wilson was that man posing he was posing wasnt he grin

FunLovinBunster Wed 07-Aug-13 10:53:44

Being a FunLovinBunster, I'm a hopster, obvs

FunLovinBunster Wed 07-Aug-13 10:55:40

Self absorbed bastards...
May I present
Will Self
Julie Burchill
Tony Parsons
Jarvis Cocker
Stephen Fry

FunLovinBunster Wed 07-Aug-13 10:57:16

Damon Albarn
The Gallaghers (Oasis)
Professor Green
Mick Jagger

daddyorchipsdaddyorchips Wed 07-Aug-13 11:00:33

Are you sure she didn't recoil in horror at you describing someone as 'utter bliss as ever.'?!

Seriously, who says that?

Northernexile Wed 07-Aug-13 11:00:44

I'm confused. Can someone be hipster'? Is it not that they are a hipster?

<out of touch pedant>

Northernexile Wed 07-Aug-13 11:01:41

Don't understand how someone can be utter bliss either.

<proper confused pedant>

SamuelAndOscarsMummy Wed 07-Aug-13 11:01:46

I thought it was those stupid kids who thought dying their hair bright purple made them 'unique' (despite all their friends having the same hairstyle) I may have the wrong word though, I'm going by younger cousins/friends teenagers lol!

The way you described it doesn't sound derogatory at all! YANBU, no label is really offensive anyway once you have left school, people need to stop being so precious and easily offended IMO.

ArtexMonkey Wed 07-Aug-13 11:02:50

It's slightly mocking and slightly affectionate, i know a few people who are verging on being hipsters from time to time and they can laugh at themselves as much as anyone tbh. It doesn't have the same clout as chav because chav is used to mock a group who lack political and economical clout, in a sense they can't answer back, there's a power imbalance.

I recently was in a pub near an art gallery where there'd been an exhibition/party thing on, and this bloke was really drunk, bobbling around with a big portfolio, bothering all the women. Well he ended up treading on the landlord's dog and getting nasty and the pub chefs came through from the back and chucked him out. One of them went 'hipster art douche' as he shut he door on this fool, it was so scathing grin

mrsjay Wed 07-Aug-13 11:03:45

That is what they are here samuelandOscarsmummy it is a teenage thing maybe early 20s at a push

MarysDressSways Wed 07-Aug-13 11:06:15

I live in east London so the place is awash with hipsters!

It depends on the context, I certainly wouldn't think it was an out and out insult.. but I wouldn't see it as a compliment either. But in your context, it's fine.

catinabox Wed 07-Aug-13 11:06:33

Are you sure she didn't recoil in horror at you describing someone as 'utter bliss as ever.'?

Ha Ha

I don't think listening to someone talk about the kind of coffee they like for a whole minute would be 'utter bliss'

But that' just me.

RobotHamster Wed 07-Aug-13 11:06:55

This thread is making me grin

(and hipster is definitely used in a lightly mocking tone afaic)

mrsjay Wed 07-Aug-13 11:08:00

the kids at DDs school call themselves hipsters it seem to be a tag or a label a new sort of group iyswim

ArtVandelay Wed 07-Aug-13 11:09:23

What is this "utter bliss" "i adore him"? Who speaks like that?

YABU for talking like Mr Humphries on crack. And I do think you are terribly impressed by him, watch you aren't hurting your DHs feelings.

MarmaladeTwatkins Wed 07-Aug-13 11:14:51

" said words to the effect of 'oh X (male half of the couple) is utter bliss as ever. I adore him, he's so hipster!'"

"X works in tech, is v stylish, wears clothing brands that will be fashionable in a years time, is a real muso, can talk for whole minutes about which coffee he prefers, is off beat and cool and adorable and good fun... "

You all sound very irritating TBH.

ArtexMonkey Wed 07-Aug-13 11:17:14
Shitsinger Wed 07-Aug-13 11:17:25

Are you Taylor Swift OP? grin

YouTheCat Wed 07-Aug-13 11:17:52

If anyone talked at me for minutes about coffee, I'd twat them with a packet of Typhoo for being a pretentious nobend. grin

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