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OMG Bear and Bare

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carben Fri 02-Aug-13 13:28:24

To be pissed off with people not being able to tell the difference between bear / bare. It's hardly rocket science. If I see 'bare with me' one more time ....I clearly need to stop skulking in the kitchen on mumsnet and get out and have some quality time with the kids.

EBearhug Sun 04-Aug-13 18:28:30

If I see 'bare with me' one more time ...

And if someone writes it to you at work, be careful about whom you reply to with, "Is that an invitation?" :sigh:

It doesn't seem to be clear where wow is from.

LRDYaDumayuShtoTiKrasiviy Sat 03-Aug-13 20:59:25

Where is 'wow' from? I would like to know.

I didn't think it was especially teenagery, but may be showing my age there.

valiumredhead Sat 03-Aug-13 20:49:54

I agree with youthecat!

valiumredhead Sat 03-Aug-13 20:49:12

I have always said 'wow'and I'm 43grin

CornflowerB Sat 03-Aug-13 20:46:43

Slightly off topic but the 'Wow. Just wow.' thing is really starting to grate on my nerves. We're not in a teen sitcom.

LRDYaDumayuShtoTiKrasiviy Sat 03-Aug-13 19:57:27

Yes, that is exactly how I feel.

YouTheCat Sat 03-Aug-13 19:53:53

I don't mind having a laugh at poorly written signs. But I can't be doing with picking apart each posters' contributions on a parenting forum.

LRDYaDumayuShtoTiKrasiviy Sat 03-Aug-13 19:33:05

(To be fair, I am cracking a smile at 'bear feet'. Though at least it wasn't bear feat.)

YouTheCat Sat 03-Aug-13 19:28:40

Grrr grin

xylem8 Sat 03-Aug-13 19:27:28

I saw an advert for a gymnastics summer camp today saying children must have bear feet!!

LRDYaDumayuShtoTiKrasiviy Sat 03-Aug-13 19:24:33

(Also joining in the applauding of quote here smile. And of quotefather.)

LRDYaDumayuShtoTiKrasiviy Sat 03-Aug-13 19:23:39

'Also those who think a word ending in a vowel requires an apostrophe before the s to make it a plural.'

Also those who think what?

Is this even a sentence?

You see ... you have your pet hates. Yet you're just as capable of coming out with something that'd make you wince if written in a formal context as anyone else. I think it's important to realize that different people will notice different things, and you're probably making mistakes that set someone else's teeth on edge, so being rude to them is probably hypocritical as well as mean.

unique - thanks! That is why I do think grammar is interesting, despite thinking it's out of line to be judgy about it. I remember learning things like that and being quite excited (I had a sheltered life grin), because suddenly the rules made sense.

teenagersmother Sat 03-Aug-13 18:52:26

I do notice spellings and my pet hate at the moment is when the word 'been' is used instead of 'being'. I have seen it so many times now ggrr!

YouTheCat Sat 03-Aug-13 14:15:53

Applauds Quote

There's a time and a place for pedantry and AIBU isn't it.

Wasapea Sat 03-Aug-13 14:03:12

hmm I am smiley illiterate.

Wasapea Sat 03-Aug-13 14:02:07

[Hmm]

quoteunquote Sat 03-Aug-13 13:55:00

OMG

Did you mean, Oh my god?

(In which case, Yes what do you want?)

or

Obviously my gripe ?

Bear and Bare

If someone was speaking you would find it hard to tell the difference if they used the wrong one.

To be pissed off with people not being able to tell the difference between bear / bare.

How do you know, they may spell it incorrectly for the appropriate meaning, but I am sure they know have grasped the concept there are different meanings, it is fairly self explanatory in context, it would be hard to have a huge misunderstanding.

It's hardly rocket science.

My father is a science professor, he was the youngest ever in his subject, he can't spell university along with thousands of other words, very dyslexic, so are his entire department, as are most of his students, not one of them can spell very well, the secretaries have fun, Dyslexia, Autism and aspergers feature heavily in the sciences.

If I see 'bare with me' one more time ....

You will educate yourself on the reasons why people do this.

I clearly need to stop skulking in the kitchen on mumsnet

Entirely up to you what you do, but an improvement would be to stop making people feel self conscious about something they find extremely difficult.

Find a more positive way to boost your self esteem, that doesn't involve putting others down.

and get out and have some quality time with the kids.

Do, take your goats for a lovely walk around the lanes, Oh did you mean children? easy to get confused.

I do hope you are volunteering as an english teacher at the local prison, library or evening classes for the illiterate, as clearly it is so important to you.

I remember nasty bullies like you from school, my dyslexic children endure them at school, (probably your children who have learnt from their mother), you always hope they will grow out of it, you clearly haven't.

If you had an ounce of decency you will go to the thread where you spotted this offence to your immature senses and offer an apology to the poster you have no doubt feel bad about themselves, but I bet you are not big enough to do so, bullies seldom are.

Wasapea Sat 03-Aug-13 13:27:47

What GalaxyDefender said.

and you know what's funny?

at the top of every single AIBU thread, there's a note that says "please bear in mind..." in case anyone's in any doubt which to use...

LRD - your post was really well put.

I like your comment about different from, too, because that's exactly why it's important grammar - because you're marking the change/difference between two things, and it should serve as a verbal warning.

"try and" is used a lot instead of "try to" - that's not about spelling, it's about using and in the wrong place. it's the same as when people use <verb>-ing when they should use "to <verb>"
it's lazy and a lot of the time it doesn't make sense.

if you put this in pedants' corner then you won't get the comments about dyslexia.
smile

HTH

Language does evolve, yes. But grammar and spelling aid in communicating effectively, so they are bloody important. Run-on sentences, lack of punctuation and misspelled words make things harder to read - it's actually quite rude to put the burden of trying to work out what you're getting at on the reader!

I was trying to be nice in my earlier post, but I'll say it now because this is making my blood boil.
I find reverse literacy snobbery ("It's petty/boring", snarky "Pedants Corner is that way", "haven't you got anything better to worry about?" comments etc.) to be far worse than getting annoyed by people making basic mistakes that most 10-year-olds would be able to point out. It seems in the age of the text message, actually wanting to write well is something to be mocked.

mrslyman Sat 03-Aug-13 12:44:05

But language evolves it always has done, so whilst being able to communicate effectively and convey the meaning is very important, grammar and spelling are always less important and will change over time.

Wasapea Sat 03-Aug-13 11:22:31

It isn't petty. It does matter. It's the English language and you should try your best to bloody well use it properly.

My pet hates: 'Don't loose hope.'
'I need some advise.'
'It's discusting.'angry

Also those who think a word ending in a vowel requires an apostrophe before the s to make it a plural. 'I'm making potato's for tea.'

ARRGGHH.

LRDYaDumayuShtoTiKrasiviy Sat 03-Aug-13 11:13:14

'Different to' is apparently accepted in some dictionaries these days (DH is very proud of pointing that out to me). Personally I think it's useful to keep it as 'different from' because it helps little children when they learn arithmetic, as it is an immediate reminder that 'difference' is about the gap between two things. But it is only convention.

'Try and' would require different punctuation from 'try to'. If you say 'I must try, and put out the washing when it stops raining', it implies you're both making an effort (on something unspecified) and you're doing a separate action. 'Try to' indicates you're making the effort specifically to do that action.

I honestly don't think I've ever seen anyone be confused by 'try and', though, not in real life.

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