to need someone to come and tell me where I'm going wrong?

(67 Posts)
BenedictCumberbitch Tue 30-Jul-13 18:18:43

DS is 2.6.

Always been a naturally appalling sleeper (but luckily really easy going in the day!). Have done CC with him as a young toddler then rapid return as a bigger toddler, once he was in a bed. That had ironed out the worst of it, though early mornings were unavoidable.

These last 2 months he's been staying awake and whingeing for up to an hour once he's in bed (I've been going in every 10 minutes, tucking him back in & only saying 'goodnight' etc then walking out after 2 minutes max). He'll the wake at 11, then up to five more times after that, every hourish/hour and a half for no obvious reason. I can't seem to figure out why or get him to stop and am desperately tired confused

Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong or what worked for you? Is it a phase I need to just wait out? Dreading the nights at the moment and can't do anything as well as usual as I've not slept a whole night in weeks. Pretty sure it's affecting him too...

THANK YOU!

BenedictCumberbitch Tue 30-Jul-13 18:19:45

(He doesn't actually get out of bed during the later wakings, just whines for ages).

dadinthehat Tue 30-Jul-13 18:22:58

Is the room nice and dark?

BenedictCumberbitch Tue 30-Jul-13 18:24:20

Very smile

He has a dim night light so you can make out the room, just about.

BenedictCumberbitch Tue 30-Jul-13 18:26:23

(And I don't think it's fear/nightmares, as he's not scared and just wants me to go in).

MalcolmTuckersMum Tue 30-Jul-13 18:27:49

Is there something in the room or outside that makes a noise at that time - 11pm?

Jan49 Tue 30-Jul-13 18:29:04

Ask Sherlock Holmes.grin

RobotHamster Tue 30-Jul-13 18:29:32

What do you do when he wakes in the night?

BenedictCumberbitch Tue 30-Jul-13 18:30:35

Not that i can tell.

I read a few things that suggest their sleep cycles are shorter than ours and they 'surface' every 2/3 hours. (Adults surface too, i.e when we roll over but don't normally wake). I think he's started waking in between those periods as it's every few hours spaced out.

Just not sure how to get him to settle himself, especially as I've tried to be as firm as I can about it.

I probably have no idea what I'm talking about grin

I will literally try anything though!

BenedictCumberbitch Tue 30-Jul-13 18:32:52

I should ask him!

When he wakes up I wait a few minutes (he occasionally settles himself) then go in, tuck him back in, try not to look at him & say 'goodnight' or something along those lines then walk straight back out & repeat until he settles. It usually just takes going in once but that's still breaking up the night quite a lot).

RobotHamster Tue 30-Jul-13 18:34:37

What happens if you ignore him or just plonk him back in bed without a word?

We had a terrible sleeper. I think this was about the age that the shouting started blush

Dackyduddles Tue 30-Jul-13 18:35:17

What happens if you ignore?

BenedictCumberbitch Tue 30-Jul-13 18:38:16

oh yes...he's in full shouty tantrum stage by the time I go in usually (it starts of as quiet whingeing but quickly reaches a crescendo!

I've tried saying nothing and that seems to make little difference. He just seems to be doing it to get me to appear the once (eventually).

I'm so tired that I'm half tempted to just leave him to it but I highly doubt that would work anyway & it's obviously not going to make being in bed a very nice experience if he thinks I've buggered off...

trinity0097 Tue 30-Jul-13 18:38:42

Could he be hot? Warmer weather for the last couple of months, tucking him back in could be just making him hot again? Try with just a sheet or duvet cover without the duvet in.

BenedictCumberbitch Tue 30-Jul-13 18:40:55

(I did ignore it for about half an hour last night & it just reached ridiculous shrieking/howling & he took ages to settle after that).

Should I maybe just leave it for longer? Maybe wait longer before I go in? And longer before any reappearances?

Thanks for the replies btw, I have no idea what to do atm as up until now CC and rapid return has worked really well but it's this sitting in bed & just howling that's making me feel a bit thick grin

BenedictCumberbitch Tue 30-Jul-13 18:41:29

He's a hot boy naturally so he's been in a nappy with a spare bed sheet over the top. Definitely not hot/ill etc

FrogsGoWhat Tue 30-Jul-13 18:43:28

Teething? Have his molars come through yet?

pudcat Tue 30-Jul-13 18:43:48

He could be thirsty if it is really hot.

BenedictCumberbitch Tue 30-Jul-13 18:44:47

Got all his teeth now smile

He has half a tumbler of water with him in bed in case, and sometimes has a sip.

BenedictCumberbitch Tue 30-Jul-13 18:46:55

It's nearly bedtime..................................................Oh lordy. wine

RobotHamster Tue 30-Jul-13 18:49:22

I'd change routine. Put him down a bit later after a particularly knackering day, try and do something to shake it up.

BenedictCumberbitch Tue 30-Jul-13 18:50:48

I've tried cutting his nap out today. So we'll see how that works!

RobotHamster Tue 30-Jul-13 18:50:56

We had a monitor with DS that we could talk over. Meant we could shout tell him to get back in bed without having to go in there

RobotHamster Tue 30-Jul-13 18:51:36

Bed or cot?

My DS has been waking me up a couple of times a night since the hot weather, so I do feel your pain. thanks Its definitely a case of settling, good night, leaving... But it sounds like you're doing all of that anyway. I think in our case, he'd had a bit of milk on the nights when it was about 2 million degrees in his room and he thought he could keep trying... hmm
Its hard work, and horrible to dread the nights. Good luck, and try to remain calm and patient though you might feel like banging your head against the wall until you lose consciousness

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