To be slightly worried that i will never get a job?

(38 Posts)
KateSpade Mon 22-Jul-13 17:02:26

I have just finished my degree (May) and left with the verbal promise of a job, a very junior role in the field i wanted to go in, fantastic, however a few weeks later they turned me down as 'my lifestyle didn't fit in with the job' (which meant my DD, as they had previously expressed their concerns via telephone)

So, i know it is only July, but since then i haven't had a single interview, not one.

Im just stressing so much that i will never be able to get a job in my field, which i have spent four years training to do & want to do so much!

Positive messages of inspiration/encouragement welcome! sad

KateSpade Wed 24-Jul-13 13:49:44

me too hairygrotter i always had a job before and during university! now nothing!

Thats a good idea exotic i will look into that, as I'm sure it will be helpful experience!

exoticfruits Tue 23-Jul-13 20:02:25

I am a bit hazy about what you actually want to do,but would getting involved with something like the costume side of amateur dramatics help?
I appreciate that you desperately need a job with pay but DS found that using his talents for charities gave him additional things for his CV and widened his circle- you never know where a new person will lead. It is all about connections.
Having said all that DS just had an interview out of the blue, with no connections, and got it. There is a huge element of luck too- no reason why it shouldn't come your way!

exoticfruits Tue 23-Jul-13 19:55:28

Have you looked at the site 'per people per hour?' You could possibly go freelance while you are looking with the advantage you could do it at home and add to your CV?

HairyGrotter Tue 23-Jul-13 19:46:34

I too graduated in May, and I've applied for over 70 jobs, not a sniff of an interview. It's dire, especially as prior to DD and my degree, I could get interviews and new roles a plenty!

Keep at it, may the odds be in our favour (eventually)!

Reality Tue 23-Jul-13 19:46:15

You WILL get a job.

Spin everything into a positive, don't give up hope, and keep applying.

I have three DC and I am returning to 'work' work after being a CM for many years and a SAHM before that. I had two succesful rounds of interviews (from about 40 applications in the end), one company really wanted me (so they said) but couldn't create a vacancy for me, and the I have just accepted the other (better) job.

I was very upfront about having children but made a point of bringing up my cast iron childcare arrangements, DH's flexible working hours, my supportive family. I think this helped. Even if this isn't strictly true for you (it is for me, I'm very fortunate with this, I know), you can spin it.

You have everything on your side: experience, qualifications, intelligence, drive. It will happen for you.

exoticfruits Tue 23-Jul-13 19:44:41

On a positive note- networking is the way to go. Are you on LinkedIn?

KateSpade Tue 23-Jul-13 19:34:30

Aw, thank you very much! smile

exoticfruits Tue 23-Jul-13 15:19:56

I feel very mean about it but it is no help to not speak the truth. You are coming out at the worst possible time, as was DS. A friends DS with a Maths degree, just graduated, was told 60 people per job at his level.
Someone has to get them- don't give up. I hope it works out for you.

KateSpade Tue 23-Jul-13 13:38:38

I know, exotic I don't know what else I was expecting to be honest! Treble figures, I did not think about!

& Thankyou beast I will take a look!

Beastofburden Tue 23-Jul-13 10:23:49

have you thought of doing what they call "information interviews"? It's a good way to find out exactly what works and what doesn't when finding a job. Have a look at http://www.careers.ox.ac.uk/searching-for-work/information-interviews/

exoticfruits Mon 22-Jul-13 22:14:03

It was in the news that a lot of universities won't advertise any more.

I am sorry not to be positive but I am telling it as it is-we have just lived through 13 months of it! The fact that he has got a good job in the end shows there was nothing wrong with his qualifications-there just happen to be too many people chasing too few jobs. Since DS was applying on line it showed how many applications-treble figures for every job.

You just have to plug away and try not to get discouraged -it can be done. Good luck-hope it turns up for you.

KateSpade Mon 22-Jul-13 20:08:34

No, it was all verbal. Thats what made it so hard to do anything about it.

Viviennemary Mon 22-Jul-13 19:33:37

It was discrimination on their part and quite possibly illegal what they did. Did you get the offer of a job in writing.

KateSpade Mon 22-Jul-13 19:28:59

My University hasn't stopped advertising them, infact my university is pushing everyone to do them!

Other than that not very positive exotic

exoticfruits Mon 22-Jul-13 19:21:03

Internships are unfair- that is why universities have stopped advertising them. DS needed one in London and we couldn't afford to keep him in London.
A friend's DD wants similar to you and can't get it and she is single with no children. It is very tough at the moment- our restaurants, shops etc are staffed by graduates who can't get work in their field. DS's girlfriend has a science degree ( a good one) and it took her 6months to get a job.

KateSpade Mon 22-Jul-13 18:59:23

Yes, i am in Fashion.

& i know it is discrimination. During one conversation i had with the company, before the job offer & refusal. She said 'I don't know how you could leave a child, i struggle to leave my son'. The job involved some travel, very infrequently, they said quarterly for a couple of nights, which i was fine with and explained everything. I guess the lesson is, do not mention you have children!

I have work experience coming out of my ears, but i am going to look at doing some more, i don't have free childcare, i did whilst interning and DD was a baby, but now she is a toddler i can't ask the same, as it is so much harder work, so i am paying for nursery still, with the hope something will come up soon!

I am aiming to go into the technical side of fashion, like pattern cutting, technology, like owllady said.

It is so easy to be frustrated, its such hard work for any student, and they really are expecting so much and paying so little. So many entry level jobs now ask for 2+ years experience, which i feel that internship is a game for the rich. If you don't have parental/spousal financial support it is bloody impossible! angry

maddening Mon 22-Jul-13 18:34:20

What industry are you aiming for and what is your degree?

Dahlen Mon 22-Jul-13 18:27:15

The thing with Uni Debs is that they are in the position of having a duty of care to students quite unlike those of employer/employee. Also a university will have much greater cause to be concerned about potential negative publicity than a fashion house. It may also be the case that your friend's email was written well enough to convince the admissions board that she could indeed cope.

Dahlen Mon 22-Jul-13 18:24:43

The right to request flexible working is simply a right to request it, not to be granted it. As long as employers can give reasonable justification why flexible working can't be granted (e.g. fairness to other employees, shows running only on certain days or times), they are under no statutory obligation to grant it.

Debs75 Mon 22-Jul-13 18:20:40

MY friend got knocked back for Uni due to her 'lifestyle' They said they didn't think she could cope with 5 kids and the demanding course. She talked to college about it and they said it was discrimination so she emailed them about being upset they were using the kids against them and 1 week later she was on the course.
It is/was discrimination. and I would suggest you get clarification that your dd is the eason and if so persue it.

josephinebruce Mon 22-Jul-13 18:16:40

Yes, you're right Dahlen....but isn't there something about flexible working?

Dahlen Mon 22-Jul-13 18:10:32

I'm not sure this is illegal TBH. The employers would argue that it is her status as a parent that impinges her ability to do the job, rather than the fact that she is female. While there are laws in place to protect women of childbearing age being discriminated against on the grounds that they may or will have children, and while there are laws covering maternity, etc. being a parent itself is not a protected characteristic AFAIK.

Doesn't make it any less fair, because it is up to OP to make the decision if she can balance work/home life and to take steps to make that happen, but gaining feedback on this would be helpful, as she can more clearly demonstrate that at her next interview.

Officershitty Mon 22-Jul-13 17:46:13

yes definitely get them to put it in writing. I think it is probably discriminatory and illegal. Can you get it checked out on eg an employment law website forum? I have also heard of many people being made redundant after getting pregnant.

josephinebruce Mon 22-Jul-13 17:45:28

Check the Equality Act 2010 - I'm pretty sure that what they have done it illegal.
I'm afraid that with the climate now you may well be expected to do some kind of internship - but that isn't really suitable for someone with responsibilities.
I'm sorry this has happened. Don't give up and keep plugging away.
Good luck.

exoticfruits Mon 22-Jul-13 17:41:15

Anything artistic is very difficult- that was DSs problem.

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