having time off work due to heat?(191 Posts)
I've seen a couple of things on facebook, saying that they (the govt) are considering allowing people in non.essential jobs to not have to go to work if temperatures reach 30 degrees or more.
The people that have posted about it all work in essential jobs, mainly care work. They were all of the opinion that if they have to work, everyone does. Ans part of me agrees.
BUT, surely they chose to have that career, knowing they didn't get time of for Christmas/Easter/bank holidays/extreme weather.
So what do mners think? Should people be able to stay at home, particularly those who work in un air conditioned places, in non essential roles?
What about young school children? Ds2 was actually sick. with the heat, so has had to stay off school for the last day and a half of term. Mum also suffers badly with heat, and occasionally passes. This is despite drinking plenty and avoiding sun.
Btw, my career plan is nursing, if I get into uni next year. I'm going into it knowing I'll have to manage in all extremes of weather.
if above 30 degrees is so unpleasant, why do people go to hotter countries in the summer? and frequently lie in the sun...?
Some of us choose not to do holiday in the sun because it would be our idea of hell...
Because you have breeze, air con, a chance to go somewhere else to cool down, get a drink.
The heat abroad is NOTHING like this heat, I'm asthmatic, I'm finding it hard to breathe as the air is so thick, it's humid, sticky, and leaves you feeling exhausted, and that's just the normal air, then double that with industrial ovens, hot plates, etc....
The UK heat is nothing like te heat abroad.
and we go to hotter countries in the summer ON HOLIDAY...
anyone care to join me - was crawling round roof spaces last week rewiring a house.... it was hot - BEYOND belief hot - so hot the sweat was running down my face and dribbling off my chin - that hot...
strangely enough I do not want to do that too often...
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BoneyBackJefferson As I said, it's down to the individual school. I'm not quite sure why you are trying to argue the points with me. If a young child got seriously ill because of heat stroke the 'lazy teacher comments', 'lack of funding' etc would all be irrelevant really. When very young children are being sick from the temperature in a school something has to be done about it.
"I'm not quite sure why you are trying to argue the points with me."
Its a discussion forum its what we do on them.
"When very young children are being sick from the temperature in a school something has to be done about it."
I agree but the suggestions you made would not work, Its very easy to say that something should be done but it has to be a workable solution.
BoneyBackJefferson Hence why I don't work in management of schools. As I keep saying it's down to the individual school. Yes, it's a discussion forum but jumping on a point where someone says schools need a contingency plan when very young children are getting heat stroke seems a bit argumentative to be fair. I did not at any point say I had the solutions.
I think it is a load of nonsense myself but it also depends on what you class as essential. The country can't grind to a halt because it is hot. It is essential to the business owner that things get done otherwise they might not be able to pay wages to the staff. I think people would moan then wouldn't they?
Not to worry folks, no-one's going to shout "Everybody out" or the country grind to a halt, cos once they make the max temperature law, employers will do the right thing and cool down their workplaces. They are all lovely caring and considerate employers who realise that a happy team is a productive team. Simples
I for one do not take holidays in hot countries (not that I can afford to take holidays). Norway sounds quite nice right now. I'm definately a winter person.
Ok Lupa. You haven't answered the question about places of hot work. How can they introduce a law when in some cases it would be impossible to get the temperature below 30c. Foundries, glass blowing, many kitchens. They are all places where the law if made cannot work.
And yes the everybody out mentality is still there with your comment that employers will start to do their bit once the law changes. And some companies will be really screwed. Small companies that cannot afford even a small investment. But the I'm alright brigade won't care as the big bad employer will be held to book.
I did answer your question Ilovemyself, I said it's not for me to work that out. They have a legal minimum temperature and yet people work in refridgerated units. Whatever provisions are in place for those businesses, then this can be used for those working at the other end of the thermometer.
I blame your attitude of not caring less about the employees' health and welfare which call for these rules in the first place.
I had to spend 10 minutes drying out my sweaty clothes this morning after working in a particularly wretched hot filing room. Luckily I had brought a spare of undies with me. Maybe that 10 minutes ought to be docked out of my pay? I've more of that shite to look forward to after lunch. Lucky me, can't wait until I pass out.
Lupa i share your pain. I live in an HA flat. Back in 2004 they put new windows in and because of H and S they only open an inch.
I prefer the winter too. I love my punchy coloured winter coats. I do style much better in winter.
Definately a winter/Christmas girl me.
Having to bring spare clothes with you shows how ridiculous it is.
Oh Lupa. I have never said I don't care about employee rights. Just that employees need to share the burden.
Like I said, you don't give a monkeys about those that have to work in it all year round, just those office staff that almost certainly have the chance to get up, have a drink, and move around a lot more than some.
Dark, do they not have the clip things at the side so they can open up fully? That's what we have, they're easy to miss.
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