Aibu to think it's high time some cyclist haters realised that for every cyclist on the road it means there is one less car.

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rottentomatoes Fri 12-Jul-13 11:11:37

On my bike this morning and as is so common a motorist shouted some abuse at me. Why? Because I held the driver up for about 20 secs until they could over take me when the road widened even though I was cycling absolutely legally.

AIBU to think it's high time motorists stopped this and thought about the fact that for every cyclist there is one less car or person squeezed on the overcrowded train system.

chrome100 Fri 12-Jul-13 11:14:03

I agree! Some people are just very impatient.

NotYoMomma Fri 12-Jul-13 11:14:24

the problem with these threads is that everyone overgeneralises and its just so pathetic.

there are shit, unsafe and abusive motorists

there are shit, unsafe and abusive cyclists

hth

persimmon Fri 12-Jul-13 11:14:49

I've never shouted abuse at a cyclist but have had one shout abuse at me for being too 'fucking slow' going over a series of 12 speed bumps.. Also, the only time I've ever been knocked over was by a cyclist who - surprise surprise - ignored a red light.
I think all road users should respect each other's space.

Abra1d Fri 12-Jul-13 11:16:02

FEWER.

FoxMulder Fri 12-Jul-13 11:17:07

I would happily make that trade

YouTheCat Fri 12-Jul-13 11:19:04

Bollocks - unless you know every cyclist and know whether they can drive/have a car or not.

For every stupid arsed cyclist ON THE PATH usually, I have to step into the road or fling myself into a sodding hedge because they won't slow down or use the fucking cycle paths.

There are crap cyclists. There are some awful drivers and there are some really stupid pedestrians out there.

Hercy Fri 12-Jul-13 11:19:26

To be honest, I'd rather have the cars. The way some cyclists (including motorcyclists) meander across the road (overtaking one car, undertaking the next) in London traffic is highly disconcerting! I do wonder if some of them have a death wish...

Pennyacrossthehall Fri 12-Jul-13 11:22:45

NotYoMomma
^there are shit, unsafe and abusive motorists

there are shit, unsafe and abusive cyclists^

100% spot on summary.

rottentomatoes Fri 12-Jul-13 11:22:54

"Research by Westminster Council found that 68 per cent of crashes between drivers and cyclists are the fault of the motorist, compared to 20 per cent which are the fault of the cyclist"

Just saying

rottentomatoes Fri 12-Jul-13 11:23:32

There seems to be more shit, unsafe motorists.

somebloke123 Fri 12-Jul-13 11:23:48

As someone who both cycles and drives in London I agree with NotYoMamma.

I got shouted at my some pillock behind a wheel the other day because he couldn't get past on a piece of road where there wasn't enough room for him to overtake anyway. There is no obligation for cyclists to ride in the gutter just to shorten some moron's car journey by 10 seconds. In fact in such a situation for the cyclist to take up a central position in the lane is now recognised as the best thing to do.

I generally find most drivers OK but then it only takes the odd one to seriously spoil your day.

But I have no sympathy with cyclists who drive like maniacs on the pavement or regard stopping at red light or going the correct way down a one way street as purely optional.

Pennyacrossthehall Fri 12-Jul-13 11:27:00

Also, however, there is an issue of perspective, which distorts cyclists responses.

If a driver steers their car to within four inches of me on my bike because they are too impatient to wait until it is safe to overtake:

- the risk to them is almost nil. Maybe the potential to lose a tiny bit of paint.

- the risk to me is injury. Or, worst case, death.

As a result, my response (probably shouting, because there aren't many other options) may seem extreme to the driver because of their perspective.

rottentomatoes Fri 12-Jul-13 11:27:18

But as a driver I do not get abused just because I am in my car, that has never happened to me ever.

I have been abused on my bike though for simply just being a cyclists regularly. Including some quite nasty vulgar words followed by much laughing by the abusers that had nothing to do with the road or transport mode. Just because I was seen a someone to abuse because I was on a bike.

Pennyacrossthehall Fri 12-Jul-13 11:28:03

I'm also agreeing with everything somebloke123 said.

livinginwonderland Fri 12-Jul-13 11:28:06

That "research" is just by Westminster Council. It's harldy representative of the whole country hmm

"There seems to be more shit, unsafe motorists."

Well naturally because there are more motorists than cyclists. If the number of cyclists went up and the number of motorists went down those figures would change.

rottentomatoes Fri 12-Jul-13 11:32:15

livinginwonderland

So because it's only from Westminster council, the area with highest percentage of cars on the road btw, we should just disregard it? How strange?

rottentomatoes Fri 12-Jul-13 11:33:45

Amazingbouncingferret

I was referring to the research not my opinion.

I think it takes nerves of steel to cycle on the roads. Motorists and potholes being the biggest fear.

More cycle lanes would be good, but I have read on other threads that cyclists prefer to use the road anyway.

Everyone should just use the roads respectfully and carefully. No need for shouting at each other.

livinginwonderland Fri 12-Jul-13 11:36:10

Nope, not disregard it, just take it for what it is - research done in a certain area of London, where there are WAY more cars on the roads than cyclists, so of course there are going to be more accidents where the motorist is repsonsible. There are more of them!

Pobblewhohasnotoes Fri 12-Jul-13 11:36:37

I would never cycle in London as I don't think it's safe.

However cyclists who ignore pedestrian crossings and the green man drive me nuts! Bloody rude.

livinginwonderland Fri 12-Jul-13 11:37:31

And I say all this as someone who has been abused by a cyclist who decided to try and cross the road in front of me when there was a full stream of traffic coming in the opposite direction, so I had to slam on my breaks because he hadn't looked, and he had to break to avoid hitting the cars in the opposite direction.

Pobblewhohasnotoes Fri 12-Jul-13 11:42:23

Oh, and the ones that ride on the pavement and ting the bell at you to move out the way. I'm the one who should be on the fucking pavement.

Pennyacrossthehall Fri 12-Jul-13 11:43:00

Sparklingbrook
Everyone should just use the roads respectfully and carefully. No need for shouting at each other.

Absolutely. And if everyone followed the rules ( both drivers and cyclists ) it would all work just fine.

livinginwonderland
And I say all this as someone who has been abused by a cyclist .....

If you're suggesting that in your whole life no driver has ever "abused" you, I would be staggered.

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