To think Virgina Wade should say 'Oi! Do you mind?'

(48 Posts)
squoosh Sun 07-Jul-13 17:51:30

Firstly, huge congratulations to Andy Murray!

But if I was Virginia Wade I'd be mightily hacked off at all this 'first British winner of Wimbledon in 77 years' malarkey. Come on Sue!

How insulting to Virginia.

(I realise Virginia has most likely never said 'Oi!' to anyone)

LastTangoInDevonshire Sun 07-Jul-13 17:56:34

Agree (they did quantify it earlier by saying the first British player to have won wearing SHORTS !!)

SueDoku Sun 07-Jul-13 19:36:56

Think they were comparing him to Fred Perry - who wore long trousers when he won; nothing to do with the fact that he's NOT the first British winner etc.... hmm. Oh and I'd rather Virginia let us do the speaking - her voice has the same effect on me as fingernails down a blackboard... grin

Kiriwawa Sun 07-Jul-13 19:48:02

YANBU - it's so fucking sexist, like a woman winning is worth about a tenth of a MAN winning.

And it was really difficult explaining it to my DS 'no he isn't the first British winner since 1936, he's the first man to have won'

'so why are they saying he's the first?'

'because bbc radio 4 is populated by old sexist men' is probably the right answer

EeyoreIsh Sun 07-Jul-13 20:00:01

It really angers me too! Bloody sexist media. angry

currentbuns Sun 07-Jul-13 20:10:12

Yes - there is definitely that underlying sense that it is only the men's championship that really 'counts' , and that the women's contest is somehow secondary and comparatively inconsequential.

AuntieStella Sun 07-Jul-13 20:12:01

And of course the doubles...

DoctorAnge Sun 07-Jul-13 20:13:25

completely agree!!!!!

flippinada Sun 07-Jul-13 20:14:21

Yes agree and well said. It's brilliant AM has won but it's not just about the mens singles is it?

SmiteYouWithThunderbolts Sun 07-Jul-13 20:15:03

Agreed. DH has already had a rant this afternoon about the women's final taking place a whole day before the men's, suggesting it's just an opening act for the main event.

Edinbugger Sun 07-Jul-13 20:15:12

Yanbu. I'm a bit gobsmacked by this tbh. Really, really disappointing reportage.

ukatlast Sun 07-Jul-13 20:39:12

For goodness sake - it is obvious they are referring to the Men's Singles Event - and Virginia's win was also a long time ago....there will be equal delight the next time a Brit wins the Ladies Singles, you can be sure of that.

This kind of whingey thread just gives feminisim a bad name tbh.

squoosh Sun 07-Jul-13 20:43:01

'This kind of whingey thread just gives feminisim a bad name tbh.'

Wow, it's been hours since someone has rolled out that line. <double yawn>

Feminism doesn't have a bad name as far as I'm concerned!

amothersplaceisinthewrong Sun 07-Jul-13 20:43:53

Didn't John Lloyd win a Wimbledon Title in about 1978 (the Mixed Doubles)!

cardibach Sun 07-Jul-13 20:44:51

I have heard several commentators and it has been very clear that they are talking about the Men's Singles. I don't see any reason for frothing about it either, ukatlast.
There are good reasons to think it is all a bit sexist - timing, relative prize money etc., but this isn't one of them!

flippinada Sun 07-Jul-13 20:50:37

"Feminism doesn't have a bad name as far as I'm concerned!"

I hear you squoosh grin

Wabbitty Sun 07-Jul-13 20:52:20

Laura Robson has won the juniors, and Jamie Murray has won the mixed doubles so there have been even more recent winners than the ones previously mentioned.

However it WAS said in the context of mens singles.

BasilBabyEater Sun 07-Jul-13 20:53:03

Feminism will always have a bad name as long as we live in a patriarchy.

If it doesn't have a bad name, it's not doing its job.

OP, yabu to expect Virginia Wade's achievement to be ranked alongside that of someone with a Y chromosome. Doncha know we live in a patriarchy?

flippinada Sun 07-Jul-13 20:53:19

Fail to see what's whingey about the thread - it's an observation.

somethingscary Sun 07-Jul-13 20:55:31

Equal prize money for best of 3 sets vs 5 seems quite equal to megrin

ilovesooty Sun 07-Jul-13 21:09:19

Ann Jones won the women's singles a few years before Virginia Wade. Yes, there have been some mixed doubles titles since. I think it was quite clear in the context of the commentary that it was the men's title being referred to.

ilovesooty Sun 07-Jul-13 21:11:50

OP, yabu to expect Virginia Wade's achievement to be ranked alongside that of someone with a Y chromosome. Doncha know we live in a patriarchy?

I don't happen to think Virginia Wade's achievement can be ranked alongside Murray's, FWIW.

sis Sun 07-Jul-13 21:13:15

Sue should know better since it was Sue Barker that Virginia Wade beat in the final in 1977!

TheFallenMadonna Sun 07-Jul-13 21:17:20

She best Betty Stove in the final. There should be some kind of accent there too I think, but not sure where...

Well being objective from the commentary I heard I had no idea there had been any British winners since 1936

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