to not understand appeal of Caitlin Moran writing for The Times?

(316 Posts)
ARealDame Sun 30-Jun-13 11:37:07

She always has at least a couple of articles in The Times on Saturday, including her TV reviews, and seems to be heavily promoted there at the moment.

But I often find her writing cringeworthy e.g. this Saturday TV reviewing The White Queen headlines "She Makes Ingrid Bergman look like Someone Stuck Tits on a Turnip". Last Saturday, reviewing exactly the same programme (did anyone at The Times notice hmm?) the review headlined Battles, Castles and Tons of Fruity Historical Humping. Is she just being crass/offensive for the sake of it? And I find so much of her writing self-adulating plus impossible to make any sense of, a jumble of thoughtless sentences stuck together ... almost like a teenager on speed.

It seems a shame when The Times on Saturday has some enjoyable journalism e.g. the often brilliant Janice Turner, Matthew Paris, Giles Coran, plus some great review stuff of the Arts.

My heart just sinks when I see her bylines and picture. AIBU ?

Southeastdweller Thu 04-Jul-13 22:33:51

flowers Snazzy

Darkesteyes Thu 04-Jul-13 22:33:00

I like Caitlin Moran. I read HTBAW last year. Her observations on carers and how food is often their drug of choice because its cheaper than other substances was very insightful.

Pagwatch Thu 04-Jul-13 22:22:51

I missed 'welcome to the Internet ' grin

Arf.

ouryve Thu 04-Jul-13 22:20:12

I think I like your DSs, Marmalade and Pagwatch. So sweet of snooping to take cheap shots at people's children.

cocolepew Thu 04-Jul-13 22:17:30

My children are total charmers, it's just me who's a bitch.

MarmaladeTwatkins Thu 04-Jul-13 22:10:42

Who asked their "hubby" <twitch> anything? confused

LOL at "welcome to the internet" grin

Pagwatch Thu 04-Jul-13 21:46:52

My DS said wnkerwankerwankerwanker.
He isn't refined enough for 'boil yer face'

Snoopingforsoup Thu 04-Jul-13 21:24:59

Do you ever get sick of yourselves?

You have to ask your hubby for a response?

Lightweight!

Southeastdweller Thu 04-Jul-13 20:58:28

Be careful MT. You'll have Justine on here again moderating if you go too far. I bet there's been a certain amount of handwringing at MNHQ about some comments on here.

Snazzywaitingforsummer Thu 04-Jul-13 20:41:27

Snooping Welcome to the internet. It has many downsides but some of its benefits are that more or less anyone who has uncensored access to it can share their opinions on stuff. 'Stuff' might include journalists. Since they themselves get this privilege all the time, in widely distributed media and for monetary rewards, it doesn't seem like a terribly unfair exchange to me.

MarmaladeTwatkins Thu 04-Jul-13 20:17:44

"There are plenty of grubby people commenting here, and to think they're raising children! Good luck with the charmers you're doubtless raising!"

I just showed this to my DS and he said to tell you to go and boil your face.

limitedperiodonly Thu 04-Jul-13 20:16:58

I see regarding Caitlin Moran as grubby as observational, in the same way that some of us might note the tragic irritants that are piss-sodden bus stop dwellers.

Being descriptive is FABULOUS!!! isn't it? And more so if we get CASH MONEY!!!! for it.

Snoopingforsoup Thu 04-Jul-13 19:31:47

Saying women look grubby is plain bitchy. She's not exactly a piss-sodden bus stop dweller is she?
That's not constructive - it's being a bitch for the sake of it.

Has no-one any common decency anymore?

There are plenty of grubby people commenting here, and to think they're raising children! Good luck with the charmers you're doubtless raising!

MarmaladeTwatkins Thu 04-Jul-13 14:59:22

I said this when the IK backlash started on here after her monumental balls-up on MH... WHY are we, as women, expected to never judge or be critical of other women?! It's really patronising, actually. I don't believe it granting merit just because someone else happens to have a fanny. I find it a very odd concept. A cunt's a cunt, isn't it, regardless of gender? Where do you draw the line on not being able to criticise other women? Myra Hindley? Thatcher? What is the accepted threshold of distaste at which we are allowed to be critical of our own gender?

Snoopingforsoup Thu 04-Jul-13 14:41:30

southeastdweller
I get a bit suspicious when people start a bashing thread on here....
And maybe I'm just a bit fecked off with women being utter cunts to each other with hindsight.

Liz Jones I can understand the scorn. Caitlin Moran, I really can't.

Trills Thu 04-Jul-13 08:11:11
Darkesteyes Thu 04-Jul-13 01:19:28

Lottapianos you should have seen the fawning on the Richard Bacon chat. He commented that his life hadnt changed that much since the baby arrived and that he often goes out and leaves his patient wife at home with baby.
If that had been a non famous bloke posting the same thing on the Relationships board he would have been verbally roasted on a spit.
Also gives a real insight into why the sleb mags sell so well and who is buying them.

Southeastdweller Wed 03-Jul-13 21:20:58

You seem heavily invested in this thread snooping. Why's that?

Snoopingforsoup Wed 03-Jul-13 20:55:43

No deadlines today ARealDame?

Just wondering....

limitedthetactless Wed 03-Jul-13 19:52:04

Sarah Vine writes about make up.

What interesting conversations she must have when she and her husband get home at night

HandMini Wed 03-Jul-13 19:46:42

* if it stoated em* - arf, classic SM

scottishmummy Wed 03-Jul-13 19:37:22

I think she's funnier than any up their own backside Commentator/academic
The types who drone on about paradigms and waves but wouldn't know funny if it stoated em
Caitlin is a funny top bird

ARealDame Wed 03-Jul-13 19:36:10

Sorry, third postwine.

Sarah Vine is Michael Gove's wife. Surely shum misshtake Ed?

Well, you learn something new every day <sighs>.

ARealDame Wed 03-Jul-13 19:31:27

p.s. forgot to clarify it was limitedperiod's contribution that was so good. I also grew up in a council house, I mean so what, it doesn't make me a heroine if my writing and/or integrity is in question.

Whichever bitter journo started this thread, get back to your dull, conventional crap. You're the type I skip over* How I laughed at this. A bitter journo?! grin. Maybe I'm Giles Coran grin!

Who is Sarah Vine, as OP I've been accused of being her? I will check. Maybe its a compliment confused.

ARealDame Wed 03-Jul-13 19:22:39

*I grew up in a council house too. I was educated at state schools. Neither is a badge of shame or glory.

I agree that most people in professions do not come from privileged backgrounds. I didn't. There should be more of us.

But it doesn't mean I have to praise people I don't rate who didn't go to Oxbridge or share my genital arrangement any more than I have to think Boris Johnson is a genius for quoting memorised lines from fairy stories*

All of this post is truly brilliant. Do I sound like CM? Irony.

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