To think that most people would agree that driving on the phone is stupid

(95 Posts)
PseudoBadger Sat 22-Jun-13 22:48:07

Why then, do I see so very many people doing it on every journey I take? Does no one actually give a shit?

RoooneyMara Mon 24-Jun-13 09:45:24

Thankyou very much, I will go in and ask.

SirChenjin Mon 24-Jun-13 09:37:36

Halfords do all sorts of minor fittings eg headlight bulbs, that type of thing. I'm sure they would be able to do it for you. Even if you only make 2 calls a year, that could potentially be a £200 fine - I can't imagine Halfords (or any other garage for that matter) would charge anything like that for fitting a hands free kit.

RoooneyMara Mon 24-Jun-13 09:35:10

Yes. Good plan, but I'm not sure how you fit them? Or if it's worth it for like two calls a year. I'm rubbish with phones, I very rarely use the mobile.

I will look at hands free kits. Thankyou.

SirChenjin Mon 24-Jun-13 09:31:31

Buy a hands free kit?

RoooneyMara Mon 24-Jun-13 09:28:34

Ok. I think for some of us we need a way of coping with certain situations, so that on the rare occasions we feel we should use our phones, we can go 'Ah I know how to deal with this'.

Because probably the less often it happens, the less equipped we are to deal with it.

I resent people driving on the phone. It makes me angry - especially when they do it a lot.

But I have been stuck in traffic while going to collect my children and then what? you're stationary - I think I turned my engine off while I rang the school. But I wasn't parked as I couldn't park. There had been an accident and I was going to be very late despite setting off early.

I felt obliged to let them know. So...I think next time I'll rationalise a bit more...what will happen if I don't call? They will try and call me, they won't get an answer, they'll then call my mother. Who will panic and start out on her bicycle from 10 miles away.

But then, at least I won't get a fine. Obviously if the traffic is moving, I'll be able to pull over and park but then I'll be even later.

Do you see the issue? I'd never do it while racing along. Occasionally to pick up and say 'I'll call back' - the benefit being that then they know I am alive and on my way. But in that instance I could generally stop within a few minutes anyway.

SirChenjin Sun 23-Jun-13 22:48:10

Yes, penalties for using a mobile whilst driving, middle lane hogging, tailgating etc are all set to incur higher fines and number of points - BBC article here

The fact is though, that unless there are more police on the road to enforce the new laws people will still get away with it.

Greenkit Sun 23-Jun-13 22:42:03

Using mobile phones when driving: the law

It’s illegal to ride a motorcycle or drive using hand-held phones or similar devices.

The rules are the same if you’re stopped at traffic lights or queuing in traffic.

It’s also illegal to use a hand-held phone or similar device when supervising a learner driver or rider.

Penalties for using your phone while driving

If you’re caught using a hand-held phone while driving or riding, you can get an automatic fixed penalty notice. You’ll get 3 penalty points on your licence and a fine of £60.

Your case could also go to court and you could be disqualified from driving or riding and get a maximum fine of £1,000. Drivers of buses or goods vehicles could get a maximum fine of £2,500.

New drivers

If you get 6 or more penalty points within 2 years of passing your test, you’ll lose your licence.

When you can use a phone in your vehicle

If you’re the driver, you can only use your phone in a vehicle if you:

need to call 999 or 112 in an emergency and it’s unsafe or impractical to stop

are safely parked

Using hands-free devices when driving

You can use hands-free phones, sat navs and 2-way radios when you’re driving or riding. But if the police think you’re distracted and not in control of your vehicle you could still get stopped and penalised.

I think they are raising the penalty to £100

SirChenjin Sun 23-Jun-13 22:38:47

This drives me absolutely insane - I see it all the time angry. 2 of my neighbours do it, and one is a police officer (a bit of a dickhead regardless of his job). My son used to be picked up from school and taken to his afterschool club in a taxi, and the driver once used his mobile phone - when I called the taxi firm they were not really that interested, so I called the police. Their reaction? There were no witnesses, it was my son's word against his, and they couldn't really do anything other than 'have a word'.

I really think it's become so widespread - a bit like speeding - that people don't take it seriously anymore. Hopefully the new traffic regs will start forcing people to think about not picking up the phone when they're driving. One of the sensible things this Govt has done.

You can buy a bluetooth hands free kit that sits on your dash for about £20 so there is no excuse.

Although studies do show that it's not just the use of hands that is an issue, but the concentration on something external to the vehicle. At least if someone is in the car with you they see you're negotiating a junction and keep quiet unless it's my DD who can't stop talking for 5 seconds. I'm not sure why hands-free kits are legal given the evidence against them.

Chanatan Sun 23-Jun-13 21:27:08

About time a short ban was introduced for driving whilst using a mobile phone,imo opinion its the only thing that will stop people.

You can buy a bluetooth hands free kit that sits on your dash for about £20 so there is no excuse.

PseudoBadger Sun 23-Jun-13 21:23:25

Then don't do it!

fluckered Sun 23-Jun-13 21:12:53

and if no passenger? am mostly on my own.

GrimmaTheNome Sun 23-Jun-13 20:36:05

>so what is the point of signs on motorways advertising the lo call number for dangerous driving? or the "how is my driving?" on the back of lorries?

If there's a passenger they can ring it, obviously.

PseudoBadger Sun 23-Jun-13 20:30:12

Are you in Ireland Fluckered?

CalamityJ Sun 23-Jun-13 20:28:52

I saw a woman do this at traffic lights as I was waiting to cross the road. I glared at her as I was waiting and she spotted me and gestured "what?" I did that old fashioned fingers/hand mime for putting the phone down and she pointed to the traffic lights basically suggesting as they were red it was OK for her to be talking on the phone. Of course I couldn't really mime "well you weren't sat at a red light when I saw you driving up to the lights talking on the phone" so I gestured for her to put the phone down again as I was crossing and shook my head in that patronising teacher/parent kind of way. Let's say her final gesture was not one of agreeing with me! As a passenger I see this all the time and if stuck in traffic I do glare at them and gesture them to put the phone down. I can't say I'm thanked for being a busy body but hopefully they'll think twice in future.

fluckered Sun 23-Jun-13 20:28:00

one morning on a busy motorway I rang the number to report dangerous driving as a guy was weaving across 3 lanes of traffic at an awful speed. the guards didn't ask if I was driving. no point in ringing when I got to my destination another half hour away. and I saw the guards waiting for him at the lights at the end of motorway so I think I did right.

fluckered Sun 23-Jun-13 20:26:23

so what is the point of signs on motorways advertising the lo call number for dangerous driving? or the "how is my driving?" on the back of lorries? hmm

PseudoBadger Sun 23-Jun-13 20:24:55

I personally wouldn't take down details whilst driving. I would if walking, but I'm usually wrestling 2 dog leads and a pushchair.

fluckered Sun 23-Jun-13 20:18:38

no dialled the number and hit call

PseudoBadger Sun 23-Jun-13 20:12:17

So you basically compiled a text?

fluckered Sun 23-Jun-13 20:10:50

Domestic I dialled in the number and car reg into my phone as if I were dialling it but didn't phone. but I would still be classed as using my phone to take down the info.

TheSmallClanger Sun 23-Jun-13 19:49:31

I like the fact that driving gives me an excuse to ignore my phone, and most other distractions. I love being in my focused driving bubble.
I don't have a satnav and I don't eat in the car when it's moving, because I am very anal about where I eat.

Round here, you have to ask taxi drivers not to twat about with their phones while they drive. The roads are small and twisty.

bigbluebus Sun 23-Jun-13 19:39:10

I find it unbelievable the number of people who think it is ok to drive whilst on the phone. I have seen neighbours setting off from home with their phones attached to their ears. Why not just delay setting off until you have finished the call ? - and we live on a bend, so they are steering around a bend and then a right/left hand turn at the T-junction down the road, with only one hand on the steering wheel.

And as for lorry drivers using phones - how can you drive that many tonnes of metal without being completely in control?

I remember a few months ago, I was driving DS to an interview at 6th form college when my mobile rang. I told him to check who it was, but it said 'private number' so I told him to answer anyway, just saying "hello". It was only the attendance officer from his school ringing to find out where he was (I had told the deputy head a couple of days earlier that he was going for the interview). The attendance officer must have though DS had bunked off for the day and taken my mobile so they couldn't contact me grin. Luckily I was dropping him back at school after the interview, so prevented further investigation.smile

Scholes34 Sun 23-Jun-13 19:12:13

Melawen - I assume you're not saying that in your case it would be okay for the driver to take the call.

DomesticCEO Sun 23-Jun-13 19:10:02

fluckered, I'm assuming you're joking or that you were stationary when you phoned the number in? hmm

If it was a joke it wasn't a funny one.

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