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to expect a login to a computer when doing supply at a school

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kim147 Thu 20-Jun-13 22:08:14

Or even a computer?
Schools are pretty good at giving you a leaflet about the school when you do supply. Tellls you playtimes, behaviour and other routines.

But you sometimes have to fight tooth and nail to get a login. Hardly anyone seems to know a supply login and sometimes they are forced to give you their login.

And asking for access to the internet to get resources - well that's just a whole new password.

Been to some schools where the teacher has a laptop which they've taken home. And no laptop has been available in the school. There is no whiteboard in the class as it has been replaced with the interactive one.

I sometimes think teachers should all have experience of supply just so they know how to help a supply teacher when one comes in.

Eyesunderarock Thu 20-Jun-13 23:00:36

'But covering a primary class for a whole day without access to IT would be quite a challenge I reckon.'

Not for some of us. grin

kim147 Thu 20-Jun-13 23:01:08

"Maybe some supply teachers should be a bit more honest aobut the type of work they are capable of."

I'm quite capable of teaching a whole range of lessons - most of which require a board, often visual resources, internet access - just like a class teacher has and expects.

kim147 Thu 20-Jun-13 23:02:25

"All work is from a worksheet/text book for cover - you rarely get a specialist so you wouldn't set anything that isn't fairly obvious to work out."

Arent they expected to teach stuff? Or do anything on a board?

Eyesunderarock Thu 20-Jun-13 23:02:38

Kim, newsprint sheets and big felt markers. smile

storynanny Thu 20-Jun-13 23:02:55

As an experienced teacher I'm perfectly capable of following a plan or making my own up on supply, but it's tricky doing what the regular teacher hopes for if the relevant equipment isn't available

Movingtimes Thu 20-Jun-13 23:03:14

But don't you just let them watch DVDs all day Eyes?

storynanny Thu 20-Jun-13 23:04:58

I agree with the poster who said all teachers should have a go at supply, good experience for them.

Eyesunderarock Thu 20-Jun-13 23:05:22

Sweetie, I started teaching before DVDs were invented.
So that would be a no.
Left to my own devices, I go off piste and we have a fab one day experience.
If you want me to follow the plan, I will, but only if the resources and access is there, otherwise it's a waste of a good plan.

Movingtimes Thu 20-Jun-13 23:06:18

Kim - as a secondary teacher I hated doing supply. Even when I got work in my subject specialism the cover work left was never of a very high quality - as though the the class teacher didn't trust you to actually teach. It felt like crowd control or babysitting a lot of the time. Very frustrating.

Eyesunderarock Thu 20-Jun-13 23:06:20

is there?
are there.

Don't change your mine half way through a sentence you nana.

storynanny Thu 20-Jun-13 23:08:17

Eyes, you are my kind of teacher! Off piste, I love that expression, I'm going to adopt it. I will use it tomorrow if I arrive at yr 2 classroom and there is a big gap where the laptop should be!

kim147 Thu 20-Jun-13 23:11:12

Most schools expect you to follow the plans left by the teacher and to teach to the objective.

So you pull out the detailed weekly plans and then realise that the resources for the lesson are stored somewhere on he school network in a hidden place or it is some book / special resource the teacher has hidden somewhere.

I can go off piste if I need to. I just appreciate having access to the same resources a class teacher has - especially if they expect me to follow their plans.

Eyesunderarock Thu 20-Jun-13 23:13:44

I have a number of days that are based round a book, a fossil day, China, Russia, plants, Australia, several linked to 14th century history, science investigations, maths puzzles. African masks.
Cover appropriate levels of E/M/S, not IT though.

Fun fun fun. grin
I mark all the work too.

Eyesunderarock Thu 20-Jun-13 23:16:17

Absolutely kim, but if you don't have access, if the rest of the team or the TA can't give you access, I think it's better not to cock-up a lesson that the teacher has planned as a stimulating, exciting and key focus for their week.
So you teach what you can do effectively, but we all know that satisfactory is no longer enough.

storynanny Thu 20-Jun-13 23:19:39

I keep a selection of fun one off activities in my supply bag that can be matched up to the various key stage one topics like Katie Moran, great fire, etc and just use those if the laptop had gone home. Also, being a music specialist I find that helps fill the gaps? If in doubt sing a song or two about the topic

storynanny Thu 20-Jun-13 23:20:10

Not ? Ipad

kim147 Thu 20-Jun-13 23:21:22

You're probably the kind of person who brings in a guitar !!You don't want to hear me sing grin

I've got lots of drama stuff though.

Movingtimes Thu 20-Jun-13 23:22:39

If in doubt sing a song or two about the topic
See that's why I could never be a primary teacher. grin
Can't fucking sing.

Euphemia Thu 20-Jun-13 23:25:59

I did four years on supply - hated it.

My biggest problem was not knowing the school's discipline code. For example, how many verbal warnings before a yellow card? Is there some system other than yellow and red cards? The children run rings around you if you're not confident on this.

Also, where do the children come in? Do I bring them in from the playground? How are school lunch choices administered? How do I take the register?

No wonder I didn't sleep the night before a new job, and had lots of migraines!

storynanny Thu 20-Jun-13 23:26:22

Haha, no guitar. Seriously though, music, drama, art, dance, all the subjects which are squeezed due to pressure, lack of time. In my experience regular teachers are grateful to have these covered or added to by supply teachers.
By the way, anyone can sing with key stage one, they don't mind what you sound like!

kim147 Thu 20-Jun-13 23:27:09

"How are school lunch choices administered? "

So many possibilities. So many ways to make a mistake.

kim147 Thu 20-Jun-13 23:28:09


Did singing and dancing today with Year 1. That was entertaining for them.

Euphemia Thu 20-Jun-13 23:28:21

Indeed - then moaning kids and catering staff to deal with.

storynanny Thu 20-Jun-13 23:29:34

There is nearly always an excellent ta at key stage one, I always make friends with her! They know all about green red yellow dinners/cards etc.

kim147 Thu 20-Jun-13 23:30:13

Unless they've mysteriously got other jobs to do instead.

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