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To think that a teacher should not tell the children to go and have a wee in the churchyard?

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ThoughtsPlease Wed 19-Jun-13 16:46:06

After lunch the children were rehearsing a play in the church a two minute walk from the school. They did the whole play once, and DD who is 7 waited until they finished to say that she needed the loo. The teacher asked the other children, about 15 in total, if any also needed the loo, about 7 children said they did, and the teacher told them all to go outside in to the churchyard and find a bush to have a wee behind!

DD is not familiar with outdoor weeing, and the result was that she managed to wee on her pants, socks and most importantly to me as they are now in the bin all in her school shoes!

AIBU to think that a member of staff should have taken the children back to school to go to the loo, there were two members of staff in the church.

kinkyfuckery Sun 23-Jun-13 20:26:57

So what are you going to do about it OP?

JamieandtheMagicTorch Fri 21-Jun-13 16:38:26

This isn't about one small child, caught short, weeing in a bush

It's about half a class, under the supervision of a teacher age 7 asked if they needed a wee (of course they will all say yes), encouraged to all go together. In a churchyard.

ThermalGirl Fri 21-Jun-13 13:46:54

I am truly shocked that the teacher did this.

I am a teacher too and wouldn't dream of doing this. not because there's anything wrong with it, I might add. but because I could predict a hysterical backlash such as this grin

i'm sure it wasn't included in her risk assessment either, I mean, what if one of them got a stinging nettled bottom (like I did the other day!)

5Foot5 Fri 21-Jun-13 13:38:48

Well I think it was bad planning on the teacher's part. I am sure that she did tell all the children to go beforehand but she should have anticipated the need for a toilet break and scheduled it in.

Having said that OP I think you did over-react a bit and YABU to throw out shoes. I am surprised your DD has reached 7 without ever needing to take an al-fresco wee. Perhaps this wasn't the sort of circumstance when you would expect it or consider it appropriate, but I have often been in situations where you are the middle of nowhere and need a convenient bush to go behind! Maybe over the summer it would be a good idea to find a time and place to teach your DD this useful skill just in case.

xylem8 Fri 21-Jun-13 12:17:25

Bad planning on teachers part, they should have gone before they left

Oh I bet she never thought of that!

KitCat26 Fri 21-Jun-13 11:53:00

Bad planning on teachers part, they should have gone before they left. Outdoor weeing is a useful skill to have though.

A discrete wee in a churchyard doesn't bother me (not that it is a habit of mine grin ). Our local (mediaeval) church has recently had a toilet put in, in the churchyard. For hundreds of years that's where people would sneak out to relieve themselves during a long service.

happyyonisleepyyoni Fri 21-Jun-13 11:48:28

YANBU and I cannot believe the posters who think this is OK!

Teachers should not be telling a bunch of 7 year olds its ok to just go and wee in a churchyard when there is a toilet 2 mins away or the next thing they will all be weeing in the playground.

Completely unacceptable and the teachers should have thought this one through by having more staff available to escort children back who really needed to go.

ThoughtsPlease Fri 21-Jun-13 10:37:57

mitzy by all means have a laugh I'm not at all offended. smile

Yes of course it is ok on occasion, such as on a country walk etc, but not an occasion where there a loo a 2 minute walk away.

Mitzyme Fri 21-Jun-13 09:45:16

It's a close one but definitely the funniest thread of the week.
Sorry OP I know it was not funny for you and I don't think you are being unreasonable but I have really felt quite down this morning and this thread has really made me laugh, not at you of course.

SirChenjin Fri 21-Jun-13 09:44:50

Maybe a re-read of the thread will help clear up that confusion? Plenty of people have explained why it's actually OK on occasion.

ThoughtsPlease Fri 21-Jun-13 09:27:46

Righto confused

SirChenjin Fri 21-Jun-13 09:22:00

Yep, that's right - a bush is a perfectly adequate toilet facility for a child who needs a wee in my view.

ThoughtsPlease Fri 21-Jun-13 09:18:47

And really you don't use the proper toilet facilities because it takes a bit of time and effort?

They spent 2 hours rehearsing a school play, I am sure that a break to actually use the toilet even for 15 minutes could have been fitted in.

ThoughtsPlease Fri 21-Jun-13 09:15:45

I have explained that she had worn the shoes since September and I would not describe that as 'perfectly good', they would have been replaced in September anyway.

I did not want to fiddle about with cleaning and drying etc, they were very wet and already smelt bad.

Without an adult to help you I would imagine most young children would end up weeing on themselves, I have no idea whether the other children managed it without getting wet, I expect that they all didn't either.

SirChenjin Fri 21-Jun-13 09:06:42

The world is covered in human wee - it's no big deal. Far better to break briefly, wee, get back on with the rehearsal than to stop, walk 7 children back up the road (willing to bet it would take 7 children longer than 2 minutes), faff about while they all went to the loo and washed hands, then traipsed back to the church.

As for binning a perfectly good pair of shoes hmm

LittleBearPad Fri 21-Jun-13 09:01:20

Thoughtsplease you need to teach your daughter to wee outside.

I think the churchyard bit is worse than teachers asking their pupils to wee outside.

The shoes bit is ridiculous.

Branleuse Fri 21-Jun-13 08:46:48

id have suggested the bush too.

SugarPasteGreyhound Fri 21-Jun-13 08:41:23

I grew up in the country - rural as in there was a bus from the nearest village (3 miles away) twice a week. Nearest supermarket was an hour's drive away. Needless to say there weren't any handy public conveniences around. I have had to nip behind a bush many times, but still managed to avoid urinating in a churchyard.

Iheartcustardcreams Fri 21-Jun-13 07:56:29

I am surprised by how many people think YABU! I totally agree with you, they should have been taken to the toilet! But I have been told I have some issues with public toilets/ weeing outside. I always have a potty with me fir my preschool DCs. I would be shocked if they told me their teacher had allowed them to wee outside when there was a toilet nearby and I have boys! Op Yanbu!

ExcuseTypos Fri 21-Jun-13 07:48:53

And there are a lot of bushes round here and not many toilets!

ExcuseTypos Fri 21-Jun-13 07:48:16

So do I and my Dc have never been told to just pee behind a bush!

DoJo Fri 21-Jun-13 00:09:10

I live in the country too...

ThoughtsPlease Thu 20-Jun-13 22:56:41

No I think they just thought going back to school was too much hassle.

gwenniebee Thu 20-Jun-13 22:56:39

imademarion that was my thought, too. No-one, no matter what age, should be weeing in a graveyard. So, on that basis, OP - YANBU.

Kithulu Thu 20-Jun-13 22:54:12

Yeah, I guessed that, but that's why the teacher thought it was OK.

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