To want to take a bottle of water on the nursery trip?

(88 Posts)
Kyrptonite Mon 17-Jun-13 23:25:39

Bit of a random one! I'm 28 weeks pregnant, work in a nursery and we are going on a trip Wednesday on a coach. It's only an hour/hour and a half away but this pregnancy has been making me feel sick even on short car journeys so I am dreading the coach trip.

I asked today if I can take a bottle of water to drink on the coach if needed. Apparently I'm not because then the kids might want a drink too. I understand this but I'm hormonal, stroppy and really don't want to be sick on the bloody coach!

I also have SPD so the idea of wandering around a sodding aquarium all day with no chance to sit down may be adding to my stroppiness about this!

Am I being unreasonable and do I need to suck it up and accept its not a huge journey and if I'm sick I will just have to deal with it?

Chunderella Tue 18-Jun-13 11:54:13

Apparently its beyond some posters on this thread that some people are thirsty more often than others. It must be down to mineral water marketing, even for those of us who have been like this since before the ad campaigns existed. That must be true, because the alternative would be that not everyone on the planet has the same thirst levels as curlew and whois. And we know that everyone has precisely the same appetites where food is concerned, so of course water is the same. Fucking hell...

And OP why were you even asking if you can take water? Your employer is a dick and is skirting very close to the fringes of the law. I'd get your GP to sign you off, or talk to your midwife about the trip at very least.

Fakebook Tue 18-Jun-13 11:56:57

How are you supposed to deny toddlers and pre schoolers water? 1-1.5hrs isn't a lot to an adult, but it's flipping long in baby time. If they can't be arsed to change a nappy or take a child to the loo, then quite frankly, they shouldn't be taking them on a trip. 40 children on an outing, they'll spend 70% of the time in the toilets no doubt. And an aquarium of all places. It's going to be hot and sticky in there. Good luck to them.

MidniteScribbler Tue 18-Jun-13 12:12:48

If my son fell down and bumped his knee going to the toilet on the bus, I'd think nothing of it. If my son got heat exhaustion from being denied wateron a hot day, then heads would roll.

curlew Tue 18-Jun-13 12:15:32

Of course people have different levels of thirst! But do you really think that everybody should have completely free access to water at all times, whatever they are doing? Do you think it's a really bad idea to say to a child- we'll be there in 10 minutes, you can have a drink then?

They're not trekking across the Sahara- they are in a probably air conditioned coach. Frankly, apart from anything else, I would rather my child waited for a drink than he had was taken to the loo on a moving coach.

curlew Tue 18-Jun-13 12:17:15

Oh, don't be silly. Heat exhaustion? Because he went a whole hour without a drink??????

As I said, well done, water marketers. Actually, we'll done Nestlé- they ar one of the biggest ones.

There's a major difference between 10 minutes and 90! And not all coaches have working air conditioning and I assume they can't open windows because of the toddlers?

curlew Tue 18-Jun-13 12:20:05

Well, if they had a drink before they set off, I presume they wouldn't be desperately dehydrated within minutes of getting on the bus?

Most coaches that transport children are air conditioned, because they have to be newer ones that have proper seat belts.

Viviennemary Tue 18-Jun-13 12:20:39

I don't agree with constant access to water if there is not constant access to a loo as well for small children. But there is no question that you should take your water. Just tell them it's medicinal. Whoever planned the trip should have made it to somewhere a bit nearer.

Kyrptonite Tue 18-Jun-13 12:21:47

Wow I didn't expect so many replies! Kids get in at 8:30 to get on coach at 9 so will ensure everyone has a drink and trip to the loo before getting on the coach.

Water is ready to go in my bag for tomorrow grin

MidniteScribbler Tue 18-Jun-13 12:23:23

Where I live, it can get to 40 degrees on a hot day. Damn straight I'm not telling anyone they can't have a drink of water when they want it.

Btw, we don't allow packaged water. Reusable bottles and water taps here. No money in the hands of the evil corporates.

curlew Tue 18-Jun-13 12:24:32

You can only hope that the children aren't reduced to little piles of their dessicated chemical components by the time you get there...........

If they are, I suppose you can drop the piles into the aquarium and see if they reconstitute.............

MidniteScribbler Tue 18-Jun-13 12:25:28

Kids having a drink before they get on the bus are going to be more likely to need to use the toilet midway through the trip than children allowed to sip during the trip who will then need to go after the trip.

curlew Tue 18-Jun-13 12:25:45

"Where I live, it can get to 40 degrees on a hot day. Damn straight I'm not telling anyone they can't have a drink of water when they want it."

Well, that is a bit different to a warm day in Basingstoke........!

KentishWine Tue 18-Jun-13 12:26:57

But do you really think that everybody should have completely free access to water at all times, whatever they are doing?

Yes, absolutly 100% yes. Why on earth not?

ArabellaBeaumaris Tue 18-Jun-13 12:30:14

Are you the OP whose manager is her MIL?

Chunderella Tue 18-Jun-13 12:35:49

Good to hear you recognise that people have different thirst responses curlew but your post at 10.31 rather suggested otherwise. And yes on a coach trip on what will be a hot summer day, they absolutely should have access to water. A coach with a loo should be booked if this is necessary.

curlew Tue 18-Jun-13 12:44:59

It most certainly didn't!

I just think that this idea that we have to drink all the time is a fantastic marketing coup. It is perfectly fine for a person of any age in normal health not in 40 degree heat to go without a drink for an hour.

I notice that nobody is addressing the side issue of children needing to be unstrapped to go to the loo in a coach.

Chunderella Tue 18-Jun-13 13:11:01

Yes it did and you're still doing it. Let's assume that when you expressed bafflement at people needing water to survive, you meant frequent drinks rather than water per se, as the human need for water in order to not die is quite widely agreed on. You then attributed this to water marketing, and continues to do so. This displays lack of understanding, or at least of acknowledgement, that some people suffer without drinking extremely frequently, and did so before such marketing occurred.

As for the seatbelt issue, how do you want it addressed? Unless each child is strapped onto their own individual toilet, yes they will need to be unstrapped. This is infinitely preferable to being denied any water on a hot coach for 90 minutes. By all means if you take a different view, ban any DC of yours from ever being unstrapped for the toilet on a coach journey.

MidniteScribbler Tue 18-Jun-13 13:15:14

FFS, they're children, not prisoners of war. Let them have a drink of water if they want one.

curlew Tue 18-Jun-13 14:15:02

I refuse to believe that anyone in normal health who had had breakfast, with a drink, then another drink before setting off on a trip at 9 in the morning,would be in even the remotest discomfort if they then had to wait an hour before their next drink. Unless they are in 40 degrees of heat, obviously. And I would be amazed if a coach considered suitable to transport nursery aged children did not have air con.

Presumably your children do not wake up parched with thirst after 10 hours sleep? Or do you wake them every 30 minutes through the night to ensure optimal hydration?

Whether it's remotely sensible to take children this age such a long way on a trip is another question.

Chunderella Tue 18-Jun-13 18:57:28

DD is only 10 months and alas, does not need any prompting to wake in the night for a drink. When she's old enough to drink by herself without needing to wake me up (desperately waits for the day) I shall send her to bed with a large glass of water, as I have myself, and then she can do as I do and have a drink when she's thirsty in the night. She's certainly thirstier in the warm weather, since you ask about her hydration habits, and I suspect would be even worse if she were to sleep in a moving coach in 27 degree heat. As I've so far managed to avoid putting her in that situation (because yes, this trip is not a sensible idea for little ones) I don't know if she could go 30 minutes, or indeed the 90 that these children will be required to put up with. They will probably also move more than my DD does when she's asleep.

As for your first sentence, well you need to start believing. Because I would be, and I'm in good health.

ohnoudidnt Tue 18-Jun-13 19:23:47

Yanbu take some water smile

trinity0097 Tue 18-Jun-13 20:02:25

I am a teacher and been on numerous trips, the kids hardly bat an eyelid at us bringing out a decent packed lunch rather than the school offering, or having drinks/choc/cake etc when they don't!

McNewPants2013 Tue 18-Jun-13 21:12:49

If my child wants a drink, they can have a drink.

What gives a nursey worker the right to refuse a child a sip of water, even more to say to a pregnant women she cant have any either. I think some one os on a power trip.

curlew Tue 18-Jun-13 22:17:47

I do find this thing about water fascinating. Nobody would say that a child should be able to eat a sandwich wherever and whenever they want, and their human rights would be infringed if the teacher said "no wait til break, you can eat your sandwich then." Nobody thinks you should be able to eat in the theatre, the classroom, the library, in church, in shops- anywhere you like. But somehow drinking is different. Why is this?

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