if you smoke, would you smoke outside the hospital, in your nightwear?

(235 Posts)
waikikamookau Wed 22-May-13 16:17:53

cos I am shocked whenever I walk by, virtually every day, with all and sundry sitting in their pyjamas.
have they no shame.
what I would do? get some proper clothes on for god's sake,

Chunderella Wed 22-May-13 18:35:22

Seems a bit odd to object to the pyjamas, of all things. I could more easily understand it if you were slagging them for undermining their health.

When I was in hospital having just had an ectopic pregnancy removed along with my right fallopian tube, I went outside for a smoke with my coat over my pyjamas.
I had probably never needed a cigarette more in my entire life.

You do not know what that jammied up person is going through/been through.

VerySmallSqueak Wed 22-May-13 18:37:36

OK then Sally.

But I thought an ambulance technician was just an ordinary person doing a days work,and if they are a smoker,they need to have a fag at some point.
He was outside and not chugging away in the back of the ambulance while treating the patient.

Or would you rather he covered himself in sackcloth and slunk up an alley?

I missed the 'have you no shame' part of your OP.

No I had no shame...sadness, pain, guilt yes, but no shame.

Sirzy Wed 22-May-13 18:43:27

Nurses aren't supposed to smoke on duty without covering up there uniform so I would imagine the same is expected of paramedics.

Alisvolatpropiis Wed 22-May-13 18:44:37

No I wouldn't. I wouldn't stand outside a hotel like it either.

Alisvolatpropiis Wed 22-May-13 18:45:31

*but I don't care if other people do. I just don't own pjamama's.

EleanorFarjeon Wed 22-May-13 18:46:34

But that ambulance technician's presumably going to be in very close contact with people, breathing his rancid fag breath on them.

VerySmallSqueak Wed 22-May-13 18:47:05

But it doesn't really 'fool' anyone does it Sirzy?

Can we not accept that even some people who 'should know better' still have the right to make bad choices about their own lives?

PipkinsPal Wed 22-May-13 18:52:49

Smokers heal slowly after surgery and can get complications. The smell is disgusting, it clings to clothes and makes breath smell. I feel sick when I see pregnant women, even more so outside maternity buildings having a fag in their dressing gowns. Their unborn children don't have a chance at good health. The ones who say they smoke outside don't realise that all the nasty chemicals cling to their clothing and their children still breathe it in when they go back indoors. Smokers litter everywhere with their fag butts but they don't seem to class that as litter confused. Also I do not want to walk through clouds of smoke to go into a shop because smokers can't read do not smoke in doorway signs. Rant over.

TheChaoGoesMu Wed 22-May-13 18:56:56

I used to drag myself down to the smoking room in pj's and a catheter. If I was in hosp these days I would wear the pj's and go outside. If there was a smoking area not too far away I would go to it, otherwise it would be wherever the other smokers are, possibly near the door. No I have no shame and I don't give a teeny tiny rats arse what other people might think.

flanbase Wed 22-May-13 18:59:07

it's totally disgusting and why is treatment being given to those who are ruiningtheir health by smoking. If you want health care then no smoking and I'd say a test to prove this

flanbase Wed 22-May-13 18:59:59

Smoking also ruins the health of others and this is unacceptable and selfish

Gossipmonster Wed 22-May-13 19:00:14

Yes because it makes me laugh. Every. Single. Morning. grin

Gossipmonster Wed 22-May-13 19:01:18

Omg? No treatment if you smoke flanbase where do you draw the line? Drunk people? Fat people? Suicide attempts? hmm

Chunderella Wed 22-May-13 19:01:55

To say the unborn children of smokers don't have a chance at good health is a bit of an exaggeration. Smoking during pregnancy increases the risk of various problems, it doesn't guarantee them. I also find it really annoying whenever I have to waft through smoke or put up with the smell, but let's not overdo it.

flanbase Wed 22-May-13 19:02:52

Smoking is a known health risk with many complications and does no good in any way so why is healthcare given (other than emergency) to smokers?

OddBoots Wed 22-May-13 19:03:08

It's no different to being addicted to any other drug, worry about clothing goes out the window if you're desperate for a fix.

Does anyone know if the NHS offer free patches to inpatients?

StoicButStressed Wed 22-May-13 19:04:49

OP - I will acknowledge first off that I am slightly emotionally invested in this. That said though, yes - I do think YABVFU.

Smoking is an addiction that owns you to your very soul. My Mumma died of lung cancer in February, and yep, she carried on smoking even after terminal diagnoses and whilst in hospital. She didn't give a flying fuck if she was in her nightgown, all she wanted was for me to flirt outrageously to acquire these get a wheelchair from the Porter's office and take her outside. So she could smoke. And chat. And feel like HER 'normal' self. Did I hate it? YES. Could I 'judge' it? NO. Not least as I too am a bastard smoker and hooked on the evil things.

Most hospitals have MANY entrances and exits - am pretty sure most people could find a way in without the wretched smokers (who cannot move that far) being in their way. Have done that myself with my DS's lots of times. So yep, I DO think YABU...

But NOT as beyond nuts and unreasonable as THIS one:

Hamwidge Wed 22-May-13 17:27:06
It's the alcoholics necking tenants super or straight vodka before going in that bother me.

As a smoker who has spent many months in hospital with dd I've seen it all, from people dragging drips outside to women in labour smoking between contractions!!

After few months of hospital monotony you can't be arsed judging people anymore.

Ham - HThe FUCK can you write "....that bother ME. *And THEN writ*e "after X/Y/Z... you can't be arsed judging people anymore ..."

Can you GENUINELY not see the oxymoronic size of Grand Canyon 'gap' between first sentance and third? hmmconfusedangry

Here - please take your well-earned JudgeyPants of the day award

expatinscotland Wed 22-May-13 19:05:08

My dad did this. Because he sneaked away to have a fag.

flanbase Wed 22-May-13 19:06:53

Stoic you write "Most hospitals have MANY entrances and exits - am pretty sure most people could find a way in without the wretched smokers (who cannot move that far) being in their way." How totally selfish of you to have not a thought for others. Shocking

HullMum Wed 22-May-13 19:07:13

it was always especially nice walking in to maternity area of the hospital through the cloud of smoking pregnant women. Yes, I judged them, and yes it pissed me off when I had to inhale it

Sirzy Wed 22-May-13 19:12:31

Most hospitals have MANY entrances and exits - am pretty sure most people could find a way in without the wretched smokers (who cannot move that far) being in their way.

Right, so next time I am rushing DS into A and E because he is having an asthma attack I will go a much longer way around and hope that there are no smokers at that entrance either just so the smoker can get a nicotine fix.

Meerkatwhiskers Wed 22-May-13 19:18:24

Our hospital is actually a smoke free site but it isn't policed. No one either staff, patient or visitor should be smoking on the site at all. There are only 3 entrances, the main entrance which is where all the diagnosic areas and clinics are, the A&E entrance - which has a few smokers but is on a path so isn't really practical for hanging around outside, and the other entrance which is where all the wards and maternity are nearer too. It's this entrance that has the majority of the smokers around. Including pregnant women.

The staff, if they want to smoke, have set up a seating area in the woods next to the car park so they aren't seen smoking onsite.

StoicButStressed Wed 22-May-13 19:27:37


'How totally selfish of you to have not a thought for others. Shocking'

Yes. You are of course right. What a wholly selfish and uncaring selfish biatch I am for doing my utmost to meet whatever small 'comforts' my Mumma had left to her as she was dying.

That said, maybe someone could say the same of you for writing that about someone who simply did what they could - no matter HOW fucking awful it felt - to meet their dying parent's only wishes when still compus before dying 3 months ago and leaving this daughter, and other daughter and grandchildren in total and utter grief.

If I'm 'selfish' for meeting her wishes, I pray YOUR children grant you whatever small mercies/'comforts' they can when YOU are dying. Ditto, that they don't then casually fire off a message when they have only just lost you telling you how 'selfish' they are.

Compounded with a Hyacinth worthy one word sentance of: 'Shocking'.

Am leaving thread before one of us writes something that gets deleted but of course that would NEVER be you, since you are just SO angelic in EVERY way of course

<prays you never find yourself in situation I did. Ditto that you show a tad more compassion for the bereaved - whoever they may be and WHYever they might be - simply as another human being>

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