to think none of you are taking this seriously enough

(384 Posts)
babybarrister Tue 21-May-13 23:01:46

Legal Aid is about to be decimated for criminal hearings - the reality is that anyone who can buy a better service certainly will do and the poor will get left with being represented by very low quality advocates

is this really the sign of a civilised society?

is this really what people want? a series of awful miscarriages of justice which will only be uncovered in 15 years time?

what happens if it is your relative who gets wrongly arrested and charged and then represented by someone incompetent and then imprisoned?

please have a read about the issue and consider contributing to the consultation before we all sleep walk into a police state - there is a demonstration tomorrow outside Parliament and the consultation shuts on 4th June

FWIW I am NOT a criminal barrister and have ABSOLUTELY NO FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THE ISSUE!

ReindeerBollocks Tue 21-May-13 23:06:36

Did you see CG on parliamentary questions talking about it earlier today?

Sounds like a done deal personally. Especially as the opposing MP's weren't asking the right questions about the long term effects of this.

Eddie Stobart law has already happened. This is the future of criminal law.

ReindeerBollocks Tue 21-May-13 23:07:58

Eddie has a website for barristers. He's already created a chambers and some of your lot have already joined. There's a website up and running.

It's a matter of time before that 'firm' are granted several contracts via PCT

LarvalFormOfOddSock Tue 21-May-13 23:09:57

I'm a CAB adviser and we're taking it very seriously! Most of our paid specialist staff were funded through legal aid.

Boomba Tue 21-May-13 23:10:53

We aren't taking any of it serious enough
We should be rioting about the crap that's going down at the moment

noisytoys Tue 21-May-13 23:12:48

I fear this is only the start of the cuts. The Tories are going to destroy this country sad

ReindeerBollocks Tue 21-May-13 23:13:51

There was a march this evening. There is a day long 'meeting' (can't call it a strike wink ) tomorrow in our area.

People are taking it seriously enough but Grayling is undeterred. I have a feeling it's being pushed through regardless, even though the new system is full of holes.

ReindeerBollocks Tue 21-May-13 23:15:36

Plus think of how far reaching its going to be. Under the new CDS reforms there will be no paper legal aids submitted, and lots of people who deal with admin at court will also lose their jobs. Barristers, Solicitors and admin staff are really on the knife edge at the moment.

<dons armour>

caramelwaffle Tue 21-May-13 23:16:44

Adding to my Watch list.

Important bunp

caramelwaffle Tue 21-May-13 23:16:53

*bump

TwoTearsInABucket Tue 21-May-13 23:17:36

A friend of mine sent a link to an online petition. She explained what it means. It sounds gross.
How does anyone stop it happening?

NumTumDeDum Tue 21-May-13 23:22:59

I totally agree Babybarrister, I used to be a practitioner. People don't care unfortunately until it happens to them or someone they know. Otherwise it only affects those people, you know, those 'criminals'. I was frequently asked how I lived with myself representing criminals and trying to 'get them off'. I always replied that my job was not to get anyone off but to test the evidence and to assist the courts in applying the law.

The rot has already set in though. We all rolled over for LASPO and this will happen too unless we stop being so apathetic. Access to justice is simply not going to be available to all and people will not understand or appreciate this until it happens to them and it's too late.

babybarrister Tue 21-May-13 23:24:33

I do know that the lawyers on here have been raising this but MN has almost a million members and there are only 9,000 signagtures on the petition ,.....you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/save-legal-aid-say-no-to-cut-price-justice?source=twitter-share-button

BitBewildered Tue 21-May-13 23:29:18

Signed and bump!

NumTumDeDum Tue 21-May-13 23:31:46

Signed. We should bump this daily.

LineRunner Tue 21-May-13 23:36:31

I agree with you babybarrister.

Thank you for the link.

VengefulCrumpet Tue 21-May-13 23:38:49

Signed

roseannebarr Tue 21-May-13 23:42:49

signed.

Signed and shared on fb.

Hissy Tue 21-May-13 23:52:23

Me too! shared on FB & Twitter.

KindnessofStrangers Tue 21-May-13 23:52:39

Totally agree. Our legal system is held up as an example of fairness to the world. This is the end of that fairness. People who presume it is doesn't affect them need to hope they never need the assistance that legal aid currently provides.

DoubleLifeIsALifeHalved Wed 22-May-13 00:56:23

Signed. It's scary one government can change the shape and fairness of our society sad

RiotsNotDiets Wed 22-May-13 01:01:28

signed and shared

BillyGoatintheBuff Wed 22-May-13 01:14:38

bump

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