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Secondary school uniform & micro mini skirts - AIBU?

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Damselion Tue 16-Apr-13 21:12:10

Walking past our local secondary school at home time this afternoon and I was literally gobsmacked at the length of the skin tight micro mini skirts, they came up to the line of their bums & you could literally see one girls crotch, luckily she had tights on.

AIBU to think the teachers should send them home to put a more appropriate skirt on?! I'm starting to feel like an old codger but DD will be starting there soon and I'm just hoping there isn't pressure to be overtly sexual from such a young age, it's makes me kinda sad.

LaQueen Sat 25-May-13 10:07:51

Oh, well yes, he's quite baby-faced, I agree smile

IneedAsockamnesty Sat 25-May-13 10:06:09

They may well do but they still don't look like proper grown ups.

My dd quite likes that Tom what's his face the swimmer she pointed him out on the telly I guessed him as about 15 grin

LaQueen Sat 25-May-13 10:02:23

Possibly sock

But, I was spectating recently, at our boys' GS water polo training - these 14/15 year old lads are 6 foot, broad shouldered, very muscled (and, no I really wasn't perving). But, physically they looked fully developed to me.

IneedAsockamnesty Sat 25-May-13 09:57:29

Perhaps I'm just old, but they don't look like adults to me I even mistake 17/18 year olds for 15 year olds. But it gets a bit like that when some of your kids are adults you don't get fooled so much by younger kids trying to look older.

BrawToken Sat 25-May-13 09:55:10

My 15 year old wears a short skirt to school but it is longer than mine was. She is doing ok in every other area and is not overtly sexualised.

LaQueen Sat 25-May-13 09:52:44

sock but the problem lies in the fact, that many 13/14/15 year old girls, physically look much older, tall with defined waist/hips and boobs, eventhough they are still children.

LaQueen Sat 25-May-13 09:50:32

Has there actually been any conclusive studies, showing a direct effect between improper uniform (skirt length) and exam results?

When I see the pupils coming out of our local GSs, they often look quite a rag-tag bunch, visibly stripping off ties, slouching down trousers, rolling up skirts - before they walk home.

You can't argue with their exam results though, they're very impressive.

However, theydo have to observe strict unifrom regulations whilst on school premises, so not sure if that makes any difference?

Wishiwasanheiress Sat 25-May-13 09:12:20

It's what young girls do. My mum did. I did. Dds will. Ill hate it. But I do accept they will.

Bet my nan did too!

chandellina Fri 24-May-13 22:45:14

Sockreturning, maybe it's a debate for another day, but I think that for better and worse sexuality develops over time. Girls wearing short skirts may well feel sexy and interested in being seen as such. Or just fitting in. I expect the motivation covers a range.

I clearly remember being all of 9 years old and having a "sexy" shirt (not revealing in any way) that made me feel very alluring for the 9 year old lads I vaguely fancied.

Sunnywithshowers Fri 24-May-13 21:55:25

YABU. I used to roll mine up when I was at school in the 80's. And I was neither a slut nor a prostitute, so DFO with those nasty comments.

I'd also like to state that skirt length has no bearing on likelihood of sexual assault, or a girl's propensity to shag around. hmm

IneedAsockamnesty Fri 24-May-13 21:21:47

Chandellina.

Of course they can be cast in such a light but its the person who does that,that sexualises them not the child.

And perhaps I'm weird but no child at all does look sexy and if a adult believes they do then the fault very much lays with that adult and that is what should be challenged not the way the child is dressed.

Joiningthegang Fri 24-May-13 21:09:21

Just to point out there is absolutely no correlation between clothing and sexual assault

Skirt length - meh

GeorginaWorsley Fri 24-May-13 20:47:59

DD's school has a knee length kilt,bought from approved supplier,and there are regular 'skirt checks' involving frantic unrolling of waistbands!

chandellina Fri 24-May-13 20:46:02

Sockreturning, it would be lovely if things were so simple, and no child could look sexy until the day she or he turned 16. You are deluded though if you think that is the case, and yes even prebuscents can be cast in an erotic light, as a vast archive of art and literature support.

GraduallyGoingInsane Fri 24-May-13 16:51:23

My eldest 3 DDs have all been told off at some point about their skirts, but no matter what I say, the allure of fitting in with their friends is greater.

They wear school-issued kilts in winter (which, by the way, can most definitely still be rolled up). I actually don't mind these as much, as they are worn with thick tights and the pleats mean that they don't cling in the same way as straight skirts. I've caught all 3 older DDs with them rolled up on occasions. Although I'd rather they wore them at the knee or just above, the mid-thigh kilt doesn't make them look promiscuous or tarty. They just look like children with a vast tyre of fabric round their middles.

In the summer, the school loses its mind changes it's uniform. They wear plain straight skirts. These can be obtained from the school shop, but can also be got at most school uniform shops. I've noticed when dropping off that almost without exception, the girls' going into school have skirts that are a good couple of inches shorter in summer, and that's presumably before they get rolled up. This, twinned with socks and bare legs as opposed to tights, is more uncomfortable for me. I've had battles with the DDs about where we get the skirts from, how short they should be and how tight they should be. I cruelly have made them all wear skirts that end just above the kneecap. I'm bloody certain that all 3 of them roll them up - I've caught them a couple of times and read the riot act, and I've had the 'uniform slip' from school telling me their skirts are too short. Clearly, I am making them wear them longer, the school is telling them to wear them longer, yet they STILL find opportunities to wear them short.

I genuinely think they roll the skirts up because the other girls at school do it - it's pack instinct. Their friends all wear their skirts short, so they want to as well. I don't think it has much to do with being sexy or grown up - certainly for the younger 2. It's all about fitting in. DD4 who is still at primary school has eyed up shorter school skirts because her sisters wear them, and confidently tells me that when she's in year 7 she 'will get to wear higher skirts'.

I just tell myself that DD1 got great GCSES and is doing well at AS level. DD2 and DD3 are getting great reports and are happy. They're all kind hearted girls. If they flash their thighs to a bunch of their peers, I will get over it.

HibiscusIsland Fri 24-May-13 13:17:15

The kilts worn around here seem to be just as short as the plain school skirts with only one pleat. Doesn't seem to make much difference.

Unfortunetly no matter how long, girls will roll up their skirts, i did from about 14 and i cringe now remembering all the old blokes in vans leering or beeping at meconfused. But i did it to get attention from young boys, a typical teenage thing really.

Madlizzy Fri 24-May-13 11:43:40

I used to roll mine up and I know damn well my 14 year old daughter rolls hers up. So do all her friends. However, they all stick shorts on underneath as she says that they don't want everyone to see their knickers when they're walking upstairs.

IneedAsockamnesty Fri 24-May-13 11:36:56

You seriously believe that pedophiles target children due to short skirts?

Floggingmolly Fri 24-May-13 10:51:41

Well yes, SockReturningPixie hmm. That's hardly news to anyone, but there are a scarily large amount of weirdos out there.
That's not news either.

LaQueen Fri 24-May-13 10:18:33

I'm constanty shock at the length (or lack of) of the skirts at our local comprehensive. The girls must roll them up.

I've also noticed the short skirts at our local girls' grammar, and plans are afoot to change the skirt into a pleated kilt so it will look ridiculously stupid if rolled up (once inside school skirts are quickly rolled back down, otherwise penalties are harsh).

But, although I don't like it, so long as the results at the girls' GS remain excellent, then I don't suppose it matters what length the skirts are?

soverylucky Fri 24-May-13 09:52:46

I think that some school skirts are too short. If you can't bend over without showing your pants it is too short. How can school enforce uniform when parents won't support the dress code? When you go into the workplace there is often a dress code and young people who are sometimes just weeks away from entering the workforce need to realise that sometimes we don't get to wear what we want.

IneedAsockamnesty Fri 24-May-13 09:34:14

People get upset about make up and stuff because its something normally done by adults to 'improve' how they look. It does not look sexual on a child.

Children wearing make up and short skirts look like children trying to look older. Its why girls dressed like that with make up on tend to get asked for ID more than ones who don't when trying to buy age restricted products.

They don't look sexual.

chandellina Fri 24-May-13 06:57:15

Of course children can look sexual. That is why people get upset when young girls wear makeup and thongs. It's not just dirty imagination at work.

IneedAsockamnesty Thu 23-May-13 23:45:44

I think its quite sad that people think children shouldn't wear skirts what ever length they want to or over the knee socks because people view it as sexualised dress just because some perverted fantasy pedophiles have claimed that look in porn mags like barely legal.

There is nothing sexual about a child no matter what they are wearing or how high the hem on the skirt is.

There is also something very strange about anyone who gets sexual gratification from looking at people pretending to be school children.

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