...not to buy my 5.5 ds either a wii/ds/game console...

(63 Posts)
Aliway Tue 09-Apr-13 21:47:03

when it seems virtually every child in his peer group has one. It is all they seem to discuss Mario/skylanders etc... Thats it really :-)

Squarepebbles Wed 10-Apr-13 20:37:50

Continual electronic media is down to parenting.

Re social isolation and withdrawal nah don't buy that either.My 3 spent all of yesterday morning in pjs reading Harry Potter separately in their beds until lunchtime.I find reading makes my 3 far more isolated going by the group play sessions they have with IPods making films,playing games together etc.

Re concentration don't buy that either.My do is a coder and spends all day in front of screens.You need a massive amount of concentration to code and he pays more attention to detail,concentrates more fully and is one of the most patient people I know. Ditto his kids who have more patience and concentration in many things eg learning to play the piano,games,coding than I have.

chandellina Wed 10-Apr-13 20:07:55

I agree with everything Pansy has said.

Why would I buy anything that conditions my child to constant stimulation, shortens attention spans, and encourages isolation and social withdrawal? (ex wii interactive stuff, which has other issues for me)

Well done marketers for convincing so many parents that continual electronic media is a good thing for their children.

TigerSwallowtail Wed 10-Apr-13 09:46:38

Wii's are used in my sons ASD classroom during social skills classes.

smokinaces Wed 10-Apr-13 09:37:21

My ds are five and six and we have a Wii. They go through phases of loving it and ignoring it. They love skylanders, but play with the figures / read the books / play role play as them / get the t shirts as much as playing it. Same with sonic and Mario. They have very old ds and gameboys with the classic games, again they go through phases with them.

Right now the tv and Wii are off and they are running round playing superheroes. Combined with mummys and daddys by all accounts. They have a balance.

nellyjelly Wed 10-Apr-13 09:08:15

It is just another toy. As long as they don't spend too much time on it.

comfysofas Wed 10-Apr-13 09:03:57

Using them as childminders.............. I cannot see that one.

You may give your child a book or paper and coloring pens, or indeed a building set and leave them alone for half and hour. What is the difference?

Usually I play with them I am amazing at need for speed. Yes it is another thing to buy but such is life.

pansyflimflam Wed 10-Apr-13 08:59:17

I seriously cannot see what different thing you can gain from gaming that cannot be learned in 'real life' iykwim. I agree that screen time is screen time too.... we restrict telly too we sound like bleeding miseries

The fact is a lot of people use them as childminders for hours and hours. I think for me it is just another thing to buy and be sold and then to upgrade and etc etc ad nauseum... I just cannot see the point.

plentyofsoap Wed 10-Apr-13 08:49:54

sorry pressed before I finished. We do have a wii which we can play together and he enjoys that, but its restricted and again the novelty has worn off, but he is only four. He is however far better on the wii than me though even when I do try.

comfysofas Wed 10-Apr-13 08:49:46

We have all the consoles.

wii
xbox
playstation
ipods
ds things
vita

But do what you want to do only thing I will add is that the wii pre owned in the GAME shop is only about £35 and you can download bbc i player on it and NETFLIX. IPLAYER IS FREE NETFLIX £5.99 A MONTH.

I think it is worth it just to watch Dexter over and over again. :-)

plentyofsoap Wed 10-Apr-13 08:43:35

My mil got my ds who is four a ds for xmas without discussion. He played with it for a short while then got bored and it has sat in drawer for the last few months untouched.

It is kind of funny to read people being sniffy about video games. Seems a lot of people are still stuck on the popular view of gaming from about ten/fifteen years ago. The industry has had a severe shift since then, it's not only teen boys in their mothers basements shooting imaginary aliens anymore, you know.

OP, if you really don't like the idea of having a console, don't get one. It's up to you, you're the parent. And your son will be fine with or without one.
My family got our first console when I was about 5 (Sega Mega Drive!) and I wasn't that interested. Didn't really get into gaming until I was in my early teens. Kids that young don't really have the attention span for being on a console for long periods of time, IM(admittedly limited)E.

AcrylicPlexiglass Wed 10-Apr-13 08:17:50

I would say no no no and then buy him one for his 6th birthday and he will be over the moon.

All of you with infant age children saying no way on this thread will get a games console of some sort by the time they're 8, I bet! Sorry to be a swanky know-all but that's what happens. At 5 not every kid has one, though many do, especially those with older siblings. At 7/8 about 99.999% do.

thegreylady Wed 10-Apr-13 08:04:01

My dgs(aged 6) was given a dsi for Christmas (by his other dgp) he is allowed it for three half hours at the weekend and not at all on schooldays. There have been exceptions in the holidays eg. when he was ill and when an older cousin (aged 9) with a ds came to stay and they played together. I do agree that most dc (especially boys) seem to have the wretched things.

Squarepebbles Wed 10-Apr-13 07:54:23

At the end if the day it is how you parent.

If I had the money I'd get a Wii or XBox Connect thingy with no hand sets- fab for play dates(more can play)and family time.

Cherriesarelovely Wed 10-Apr-13 07:51:21

I am pretty luddite ish as it goes and think that kids ought to be doing simpler, less screen based activities. However, Dd got a Ds when she was 7 and enjoyed it.....didn't play on it much though. Now at 10 she has a kindle fire. Being a bit dense I didn't realise this connected to the internet so that takes alot more supervision and I slightly regret agreeing to it (Dps idea). However, Dd gets huge amount of enjoyment from it and it has improved her reading no end.

We once borrowed a wii over Christmas and that was brillliant family fun. Definitely would consider getting something like that sometime. In summary, I don't think kids need stuff likethis but I think, in moderation they can be fun. Entirely up to you and your Ds though.

Squarepebbles Wed 10-Apr-13 07:48:59

Oh and this holiday my dc have spent each morning reading Harry Potter for hours in bed,have turned my house into Hogwarts,payed outside for hours every day with friends riding bikes,inventing various ball games,hide and seek etc,gone to the museum,gone to the library,hiked across the moor and dtwin2 has completed his 100th book for the library challenge.,looked after various animals,played with Sylvanians,made bug houses.........

They have also done an hour of school work a day and had an hour of screentime a day.

The dtwins have started coding and found a new app where you make films then blow them up!grin

Squarepebbles Wed 10-Apr-13 07:42:44

6/7 was the cut off for us.

Then we restricted.

Now they are 9,9 and 8 we have just started them earning an hour of allscreen time per day by doing an hour of homework.Tis working a treat so far.

If they choose Raspberry Pi,IPod,DS or laptop for their hour they don't get TV on top.

Screens are screens,I don't think you can get sniffy over one and not the other.

Sorry disagree with Pansy you can get a lot out them if you handle them right and don't use them as babysitters for hours and hours.I don't tend to do that with anything re my dc so screens aren't any different.

pansyflimflam Wed 10-Apr-13 07:36:17

And... I really resent the 'playing Wii brings the family together' bullshit advertising. It is insidious in the extreme but I think a lot of people believe it.

Whatalotofpiffle Wed 10-Apr-13 07:32:41

No! Go with your gut... I look after a little boy who is 6 and he is obsessed with sky landers to the point that he is losing friends as he can talk about nothing else

pansyflimflam Wed 10-Apr-13 07:30:49

Ignore the welsh bit! paste has a mind of its own apparently!!!! So sorry

pansyflimflam Wed 10-Apr-13 07:29:07

YANBU I wish more people would just buck the trend and not bother with these things. For children of this age they have nothing to add to their play that could not be found through other sorts of play. Children are not growing up with superior skills because of these games. Half the time I think people buy them because everyone else has them and no one wants to be the odd one out. I have 5 children from 12 to 1 and no one here has even asked for one - we are not Luddites but we do really restrict screen time on a laptop for the two elder children because seriously I cannot see what it adds. Having a 9 year old DD with some spectrummy learning probelms my feeling is if she were playing games, being online or even using a oI am afraid my own Welsh is very poor but if you would like to ask any questions, we do have a interpretor here today phone too often she would never speak to us!!! My older DD is 12 and it is just not her thing, she soends v. minimal time on her phine even, she is outdoorsy and chatty and calls her friends on the phone to talk rather than text.

We are not the norm amongst our friends but the prevailing feeling anecdotally is that they don't want their children to 'miss out' because everyone has them...... what a poor excuse for decison making. Also I think the perception is that when children are engrossed in games they are being 'good' - I have heard this a lot. A school Mum I know says this all the time (when her 13 yr old ds is playing 18 cert games in his bedroom for hours) 'oh well at least he is not out trouble making/annoying me/filling house up with smelly teenaged boys' These things make children and teenagers easier to manage....... and that is why we like them. In real terms they have nothing to add.

Mutley77 Wed 10-Apr-13 07:15:23

coralanne Your DN's DD sounds a lot like my daughter. She did get a DS at age 5 and she is still exactly the same, just plays computer games every now and then in addition to her other varied interests.

JumpingJackSprat Wed 10-Apr-13 07:11:45

Children playing creatively, reading, dressing up, playing sword fights etc is not mutually exclusive with them playing the wii. my dss does both and hus hand eye co-ordination, problem solving skills and ability to co-operate to solve puzzles has improved no end. he has a wii and a ds and he prefers the wii as we can play with him.

Crawling Wed 10-Apr-13 06:09:59

Oh and allway you can buy pre owned games from GAME for as little as a fiver.

Crawling Wed 10-Apr-13 06:08:18

Mine has a wii and a ds age 7 wii is more used and skylanders is the best game ever.

Ds has also learnt to read the best in his class as I let him play harder games that involve alot of reading. Making reading fun.

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