Aibu to think its veey unfair that universities with `colleges`can have a number of teams in university challenge...

(53 Posts)
Allthingspretty Mon 08-Apr-13 20:12:44

Where as other umiversities have one team?

Startail Mon 08-Apr-13 20:19:58

YANBU, but DH would disagree wink

(Those who attend, the places with collages are a bit smug.)

BatmanLovesRichardAyoade Mon 08-Apr-13 20:20:11

YABU.

The colleges have fewer students, therefore technically have less talent to choose from, and are therefore technically less likely to get through the first stages.

scarlettsmummy2 Mon 08-Apr-13 20:21:23

I think many things in life are unfair. This really isn't one I lose much sleep over!

Since they frequently win with 1% of their membership against universities that have sent the best 0.25% of their student body, YABU.

Also, Oxford and Cambridge don't have student bodies in the way that say UCL does or Bangor does.

Allthingspretty Mon 08-Apr-13 20:26:34

I just think that you should have one team per university as there is as far as i know the chance you will have two colleges from the same university goinh against one another

MiaowTheCat Mon 08-Apr-13 20:34:51

When I was at uni the talk was that half of our colleges COULD enter individual teams but the other half couldn't because of how they were set up... but we entered as one "University" team anyway. Friend was the understudy the final year we were at uni - I was just impressed they'd managed to get him sober enough to answer the selection questions to be honest.

Changebagsandgladrags Mon 08-Apr-13 20:44:31

I think Oxford/Cambridge/etc should only be allowed one team. It's not like you can make 5 or 6 applications to different colleges, they are all the same bloody university.

Fargo86 Mon 08-Apr-13 20:52:04

Oxford or Cambridge would win every year if they entered combined teams.

MrsBW Mon 08-Apr-13 20:54:36

FFS. Really?

MummytoKatie Mon 08-Apr-13 20:56:37

Would one or other of them not just win every year then? In 2010 / 2011 Peterhouse Cambridge (260 ungrads) beat Exeter (11,000 undergrads) in the first round.

I assumed it was done to try and make it a bit fairer.

The teams aren't selected just for their ability to answer trivia questions - the selection process is also looking for teams which might be interesting or engage the audience.

MummytoKatie Mon 08-Apr-13 21:11:24

But it would be pretty d@mn in-engaging if it was the two same teams in the final every year.

If it is going to become "the Oxbridge show" it would be a lot more fun to select tall, hunky blokes, squeeze them into tight Lycra and get them to do something manly like lifting 1000s of tonnes of water........

MummytoKatie Mon 08-Apr-13 21:12:43

Unengaging. Grrr @ the IPAD. (Which has just tried to change grrr into Gerry.)

Scheherezade Mon 08-Apr-13 21:31:03

Gladrags- you do apply to separate colleges, not the entire university.

lionheart Mon 08-Apr-13 21:36:17

London has colleges too.

Allthingspretty Mon 08-Apr-13 21:37:25

I musy admit to not knowimg the rules regarding enyering uc or about the college system but it gets veru noring when its just lots of oxbridge colleges week after week

Yes, and UCL, KCL, IC, etc have separate teams even though they have combined unions in some places, shared halls, etc.

I still don't see why it could be an unfair advantage to have a smaller pool to choose from. Unless you're the person trying to get on the team, so have less competition for your place.

GraceSpeaker Mon 08-Apr-13 21:39:57

YABU

If a 'college' (why the inverted commas, btw?) of around 400 students can muster up a team that beats a university team of thousands, they've clearly earned the right to compete as they are (as Batman and Horry said).

Did you get skipped off your university team or something, Allthings? hmm

Changebagsandgladrags Mon 08-Apr-13 21:46:26

Gladrags- you do apply to separate colleges, not the entire university.

Yes, but if you're applying to Oxford, you apply to one college at Oxford. You don't apply to college one as your first choice and college two as your second, college three as your third. You apply once, to one college.

Changebagsandgladrags Mon 08-Apr-13 21:48:21

But with London, you apply to Kings, UCL, Imperial as different universities. You could use up all your UCAS applications at London universities.

MummytoKatie Mon 08-Apr-13 21:51:37

You can also only apply to one of Oxford and Cambridge (not both). Should they also be combined?

Allthingspretty Mon 08-Apr-13 21:55:16

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Grace.. No. Its also a lighthearted thread so why the hmm face.

I have learnt something about thw college system on this thread. Just goea to show everuday is a school day

Changebagsandgladrags Mon 08-Apr-13 22:04:04

You can apply to both Oxford and Cambridge. Nothing stopping you, they have their own UCAS codes. You wouldn't get in if you did it, but you can still do it.

BlackMini Mon 08-Apr-13 22:09:08

This may be an ignorant question, changebags, but why would you not get in?

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