To make DD say ask over and over?

(60 Posts)
BabyMakesTheBellyGoRound Fri 05-Apr-13 14:49:46

After years of using the word ask she has started to say axe. It irratates me (although I'm not sure why) that she has come in saying " I need to axe you something" so I subjected her to a rather lengthy account of the axe and its uses throughout history. What is wrong with young people being seemingly unable to say ASK?

gorionine Sat 06-Apr-13 14:50:52

MrsDeVere, I am in the North West and although I do have a very loud voice, not sure it will reach all the way to your DC!grin

MrsDeVere Sat 06-Apr-13 13:06:39

gorionine I live in East London, right next to Essex.

They say 'go a toilet' round this way. So if you work in my DC's school I give you full permission to scream 'it is go TO the toilet!'

They also say 'pourin a rain'.

I am from just up the road and talk like a real norf larndener but even I can't cope with Goin a toilet [grin

gorionine Sat 06-Apr-13 12:48:44

Cannot stand axe, reminds me of the Rikky Lake show all these years ago! I LOVE MamaTJ method to sort the problem out!grin.
Another one I hear a lot in school is "Can I go toilet?" I really have to work on my inner peace not to scream "TO the toilet!"

Trazzletoes Sat 06-Apr-13 12:38:44

sugar DH can't say "thr"

It drives me nuts but he's a well-regarded professional. It hasn't held him back grin and if he could say it, he would because he is aware of it. He just can't make the sound sad

MrsDeVere Sat 06-Apr-13 12:36:22

that should have be 'veh' not 'beh'

MrsDeVere Sat 06-Apr-13 12:36:00

My DCs are not allowed to say it.
My OH says it because that is how he grew up talking. Its his accent.
He also pronounces 'th' 'beh'
DS3 has started doing it so I gently model back at him. He is only 5 so I am not going to correct him.

DS1 is 19 and doesn't use street slang at home. His MC friends do though. Its quite funny that they talk more 'black' than he does.

I have perfected my own version of street slang using a mix of actual current slang, stuff I remember from the 80s/90s and totally made up stuff.

Hearing a middle aged woman talking in that way puts a stop to any nonsense is seconds grin

MiaowTheCat Sat 06-Apr-13 12:23:53

Aksed (it's more like that than axe around here) drives me fucking crazy... between that, and the usual teacher-pedant's classic of "can I borrow a bit of paper"... "no you may HAVE a bit of paper but borrowing means you'll be giving it back when you're finished with it" I've got material to nag the two daughters with for a good few years!

Oh and "mom-maaaah" for grandmother around here does my head in as well.

HallelujahHeisRisen Sat 06-Apr-13 12:10:03

'It is vitally important to be a complete PITA pedant with teenagers, so they have something nice and easy and harmless to rebel against.'

bugger... mum did this... and I have only just realised... 30 years later.

BabyMakesTheBellyGoRound Sat 06-Apr-13 11:55:25

She is fairly popular smile

I cannot stand people who live their life through Facebook.

BerthaKitt Sat 06-Apr-13 11:51:47

Baby your DD may be neither a Londoner nor from the Caribbean but she is cool with her talk, bro.
As for why you would announce your sandwich-related plans on Facebook, well indeed. We are kept informed of every tiny detail of her life with updates every 5 mins or so. confused

thornrose Sat 06-Apr-13 10:47:41

Oh your second paragraph did make me laugh Three.

When I lived in Brixton I was on a bus and behind me were a group of boys using really urban street talk.

When I got off I had a look at them and they looked like floppy haired public school boys grin

Some teens try to fit in and often don't want to talk like their parents, they inevitably grow out of it.

I think it's amusing!

seeker Sat 06-Apr-13 10:44:52

If she's been saying it correctly up to now, she can say it, and she will start saying it again- particularly if you don't let her see it winds you up! My children are at least bi, if not tri lingual- they need to adapt their "posh" home accents to fit in sometimes. Not a problem. And under certain circumstances probably prevents them getting their heads kicked in/being socially isolated.

DS3's Y1 teacher used to do that thing where he would say 'myself' instead of me and 'yourself' instead of 'you'. For example "Please could you sign this form and give it back to myself". I'm normally quite a gentle person, but it made me want to punch 'himself' every time he did it.

My children aren't of Caribbean heritage, so it would annoy me if they said axe for ask, as I would see it as an affectation.

For a similar reason, it sounded ridiculous when DS1 first started secondary school and began to sound like he was a member of a gang in urban Los Angeles, when he is really a middle class child from the Home Counties.

It's all in the context of who is using the dialect. But 'haitch' really annoys me.

NotMostPeople Sat 06-Apr-13 10:32:49

Axe was in common usage when I was at secondary school in the 80's, as was "Nah I mean?" My dc's would think it hysterical if they heard me speak like that now, but I sort of had to in order to fit in. The kids I was at school with thought I was posh because I once took a M&S carrier bag to school. It'll pass.

Sugarice Sat 06-Apr-13 10:21:47

I have this problem with ds1 and 3 who will not pronounce thr they use f as in it's free 0 'Clock, frew instead of threw. They are 17 and 13.

It drives me insane but they insist they find it hard to say correctly! angry

They are both articulate in all other aspects of their vocabulary and pronounciation, just this!

sjupes Sat 06-Apr-13 10:20:02

;) = smile

Duh.

sjupes Sat 06-Apr-13 10:19:18

My aunt pulled me up on this years ago, i dropped letters willy nilly but i have grown out of it eventually ;) although t's being dropped is a local dialect thing here, i do try not to for the childrens sake <wont someone think of the children!>

I tell dd off for saying windy instead of window and whit instead of what etc - she is picking up oary language from her grandad it annoys me to heck.

MortifiedAdams Sat 06-Apr-13 10:12:54

YANBU. I hate 'is' instead of 'me'. As in, "decode what you want to do and get back to is"

cardibach Sat 06-Apr-13 10:09:24

'Jamp' is common round here (South West Wales). Rationally I know it is dialect - a non-standard usage, but it doesn't stop me from getting cross about it. I get exchanges like this in school:
Kid: I jamp off the rocks last night.
Me: No you didn't.
Kid: Yes I did, I jamp off the rocks.
Me: No you didn't.
Kid: I did, miss. (To friend) I did, didn't I/ I jamp off the rocks.
Me: No, you didn't. You may have jumped, but jamp is not a word.
Kid: OH, Miss!

DD(17) is a grammar Nazi herself, so I don't get it at home (wonder why? smile )

quesadilla Sat 06-Apr-13 09:59:31

Arx is originally a Jamaican pronunciation I think - you hear it from quite a few older black people in London, but like a lot of that dialect it has passed into mainstream speech for urban kids. I don't have a problem with speech absorbing influences from immigrant populations but its just incorrect and will not amuse teachers so YANBU.

BabyMakesTheBellyGoRound Sat 06-Apr-13 09:57:16

My DD is neither Caribbean or from London and is well able to say ask. She was brought up to say ask and will therefore not be entertained with her use of axe. grin grin
Imma sammidge is similar to how my toddler used to say she wanted ham imma sammidge (ham in my sandwich). Why would you announce you are having a sandwich on facebook?hmm

Another habit I see creeping in is 'd'ya know wha I mean?' at the end of every sentence. Next time she says it I am going to simply reply that no I don't know what she means.

BerthaKitt Sat 06-Apr-13 08:31:08

Also, 'axe' is a Caribbean pronunciation of 'ask'. It's part of urban London street speak and is therefore cool, at the risk of sounding like somebody's mum which I am

BerthaKitt Sat 06-Apr-13 08:28:27

My SIL, who's in her 30s, writes 'imma sammidge' on FB all the time... This apparently means she is going to have a sandwich hmm

BabyMakesTheBellyGoRound Sat 06-Apr-13 08:18:26

I also hate the trend of dropping 'to' and 'the'.
Yes I do live in Ireland.
H doesn't bother me as it is pronounced haitch here.

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