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To have been pretty impressed by Ann Widdecombe and her comments on the Philpotts and benefits?

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Molehillmountain Thu 04-Apr-13 22:13:56

I've been really critical of her in the past but she seems to be the only right leaning voice speaking any kind of balance on Mick Philpott. At least she seems able to isolate a wicked act by a bad man from the (unpleasant) debate about benefits that is raging at the moment. Perhaps George Osborne could have her as a mentor?

grovel I don't think Edwina Currie will ever be regarded in the same light as Ann W. Edwina's a thoroughly nasty piece of work and is a DM rent-an-opinionated-gob.

Molehillmountain Fri 05-Apr-13 07:14:57

Edwina Currie? No-never going to happen. No one can forget the egg thing while her name still sounds a bit like "egg-Wina"!

M0naLisa Fri 05-Apr-13 07:18:04

No she didn't say anything about him being a good father. She said they weren't neglected, were fed and cared for.
She was also not scared when he stood up to her calling her a bitch.

She also said he was all front for the cameras.

Molehillmountain Fri 05-Apr-13 07:23:17

Yes-Mona, it was in response to a "why didn't ss step in?" Question and she rightly said there weren't the triggers as the children were clean, fed, well behaved and attended school. She just doesn't get hysterical about stuff or say things bigger than they are to prove a point. No wonder she never made it further in politics!

auforfoulkesake Fri 05-Apr-13 07:25:22

i was pleasantly surprised when I heard her on Jeremy vine, despite him goading her into blaming the benefit culture she would not.

ClaireDeTamble Fri 05-Apr-13 07:29:13

I like Ann Widdecombe too and although I don't totally agree with her politics, I prefer her old style, feudalistic, paternalistic, conservatism to the modern day, self centred, no such thing as society, thatcherite tories.

Gigondas Fri 05-Apr-13 07:30:15

I also thought she was sensible on this -heard her on radio.

ithaka Fri 05-Apr-13 07:32:53

I though Ann Widdecombe was the Home Secretary who was responsible for pregnant women being handcuffed to beds hen they were in labour?

But the way you are all talking about her, I must be wrong....

Nancy66 Fri 05-Apr-13 07:38:32

She absolutely DID say he was a good father. Not since he was charged but at the time of the documentary and immediately after the fire she did.

Squarepebbles Fri 05-Apr-13 07:41:41

She is a very wise old bird and lives in the middle of Dartmoor.

I ended up in the hairdressers as the same time as her whilst she was having a photo shoot for Strictly.

I was amazed at how lovely,quiet and polite she was. She also looked stunning when they'd finished cutting her hair, I looked shite in comparison.

Did have a what has my life come to moment after that though.smile

ithaka Fri 05-Apr-13 07:44:01

Ah, not Home Secretary. In 1996, as prisons minister, she oversaw the Government's policy to shackle pregnant prisoners with handcuffs and chains when in hospital. Lovely lady.

Vicky2011 Fri 05-Apr-13 07:47:48

There are plenty of people on the right who feel the benefits system needs reform and that, in some cases, it is counterproductive who don't, for one minute, think that it turned Mick Philpott into a murderer.

If anything we should be asking why he was free to murder (and yes I'm deliberately using that word) having previously stabbed his ex multiple times!

I think this case has become clouded because in court it was argued that his motive for starting the fire was part of a custody battle and that the children were, in effect, his meal ticket but to extrapolate any points on the welfare state from this one vile individual is bizarre.

Footface Fri 05-Apr-13 07:53:19

Nancy is right. She did say he was a good father, straight after the fire. But before he was charged, not sure at that point though she could have said anything else

TanteRose Fri 05-Apr-13 07:59:21

article in the Independent

her views do seem to be measured and thoughtful, in the midst of all the other coverage

Lorelailovesluke Fri 05-Apr-13 08:02:24

Ithaka, I was coming on to make same point.

She is a very right wing, shackling pregnant women in hospital, anti gay marriage for a start. Just because she made once sensible comment it does not make her a national treasure.

While I don't agree with everything AW says, I agree with your comments that she does seem more caring and considerate than other MPs. This article is interesting.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/natalie-bennett/minimum-wage-make-work-pay_b_3014713.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

Squarepebbles Fri 05-Apr-13 08:22:39

She is a staunch Catholic.Many people with various religious convictions are anti gay marriage.I am not Tory or religious and pro gay marriage however I have to except others are not the same.There are several beliefs I don't agree with in all sorts of religions.

I have envy over her house.When I retire I want a house in the middle of Dartmoor with cats so I can spend days striding over Tors.

Did anybody see that doc in her years back,she has led quite an interesting life?Very bright lady.

I agree with Ithaka and Lorela.

Squarepebbles Fri 05-Apr-13 08:35:15

Also re prisons.They had had women escape as hospitals aren't secure.At the end of the day you are still a criminal even if you end up in hospital.Being shackled to a bed whilst receiving treatment isn't exactly a huge hardship.If you don't like it don't break the law.Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time.

She had some interesting views re making prison more beneficial long term for inmates ie getting them to work,seems to be getting quite trendy now.

JakeBullet Fri 05-Apr-13 08:37:58

I have always liked AW, simply because she says what she believes....even if it doesn't toe the official party line.

EldritchCleavage Fri 05-Apr-13 08:59:19

I don't like her, because I think she is deeply intolerant of other women. A misogynist, in fact.

Wannabestepfordwife Fri 05-Apr-13 09:13:35

I still think she would have made a fantastic speaker

flippinada Fri 05-Apr-13 09:13:35

Yes, I was pleasantly surprised to hear her comments yesterday.

I don't agree with her views but I do think they are sincere and genuinely held, unlike the new breed of career politicians.

SparklyAntlersInMyDecorating Fri 05-Apr-13 09:16:53

Have you seen the Mail's latest headline? A direct taunt to "the left" inviting their readers to vote on that headline.

Twats.

I like her. I don't agree with her on everything but she really believes her views and isn't prepared to be shifted. Nor is she one for the sound bite for a headline shite that so many politicians of both flavours seem to favour.

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