to think that you should put the damn salary on the job description!!!

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About 80% of job adverts I've found don't have the salary on them normally with "salary to be discussed", "salary negotiable" or "salary dependant on experience".
Surely when you are advertising for a job you know roughly what you are willing to pay and it would save bother later if you just put that on the ad rather than wasting time reading applications that may have different salary expectations?
I always assume that the salary is ridiculously low and they just don't want to put people off - and don't bother to apply.
AIBU to think that you should put a rough idea of the salary on adverts?

TiggyD Wed 03-Apr-13 20:09:05

If the salary was good they would tell people about it.

AThingInYourLife Wed 03-Apr-13 20:10:59

I agree with Tiggy.

It's irritating.

KenAdams Wed 03-Apr-13 20:13:02

YADNBU. It's hard to know what level the job is without a salary too.

NotSuchASmugMarriedNow Wed 03-Apr-13 20:15:32

if they don't put the salary, its low.

Blankiefan Wed 03-Apr-13 20:16:23

Sometimes the salary isn't stated because it's a range. Our salaries have a really wide range - if I advertise a role at £27-£40k depending on experience, it just upsets someone to be offerred £27K; even if it's above what they earned previously. Thus, a pay bump can become demotivational...

You may disagree but this is why we often don't state a salary on roles we advertised.

RatPants Wed 03-Apr-13 20:16:26

Agreed. I wouldn't bother applying for anything which don't clearly state how much the salary was. Obviously they are being vague for a reason!

I applied once - and it turned out that they wanted me to work for free in exchange for sharing their house in London.

So I've not had the best of experiences...

Salary in private sector v variable depending on who applies.

janelikesjam Wed 03-Apr-13 20:19:50

Totally.

And can I just add one more thing (am I in bad mood today). What about when you are trying to buy tickets for an event or service, and you go online to buy them. You hunt about the web page looking for the price, but it is nowhere to be seen. Do the idiots think we'll somehow not notice this. I had this problem recently, some theme park, impossible to find price until I got to checkout.

Oodsigma Wed 03-Apr-13 20:20:24

At the bottom end of the pay market often advertises as 'above minimum wage' which is usually less than 10p over. angry

AThingInYourLife Wed 03-Apr-13 20:22:22

"Our salaries have a really wide range - if I advertise a role at £27-£40k depending on experience, it just upsets someone to be offerred £27K; even if it's above what they earned previously. Thus, a pay bump can become demotivational...

Why not put the salary floor on at least?

Make it clear there is room for negotiation, but that you see the job as being worth at least X.

Otherwise you are at risk of losing good applicants so you can keep weaker ones.

Blankiefan Wed 03-Apr-13 20:26:18

"Why not put the salary floor on at least?"

There are definitely pros and cons of any approach. Just explaining why some companies do this (and it's not always because of a low salary)...

Oodsigma - ahh yes, the "above minimum wage" trick. Can't be that much more else they would just say!

foslady Wed 03-Apr-13 20:26:58

I was asked to state what wage I would work for after being told 150 people had applied and they were keen to take my application further. When I asked for industry standard and explained why I was worth it, suddenly they weren't so keen......wish I'd stuck to my guns and told them I don't do reverse auctions........

I'm not a fan of the applicant having to state their salary expectations first either.

xpost sorry

Ruffello Wed 03-Apr-13 20:29:34

Unfortunately, with so many people chasing so few jobs, employers don't need to try very hard..

stubbornstains Wed 03-Apr-13 20:30:04

To the general jobseeking public it just smacks of contempt for them, along with expecting an individually tailored CV for each application, and then not even sending a letter of acknowledgment for said application.

Re: not getting prices till you arrive at the online checkout;- I have abandoned online transactions at the last moment so many times over this...

And while we're on a rant, did you know that First Great Western do not mention ANYWHERE on their enormous website that children under 5 travel for free? Presumably so that parents will get confused and actually buy tickets for their 3 year olds angry

(here endeth the wine and PMT-fuelled digressionblush)

MajaBiene Wed 03-Apr-13 20:30:47

I only apply for public sector jobs with clear salary bands now.

Flossiechops Wed 03-Apr-13 20:35:37

My dh applied for a job which didn't state the salary. (This was very strange to me having worked in the public sector all my life where salary is clear) During the interview they asked him what sort of salary he was looking for. It seems that the company pay their workers what they feel they are individually worth not a blanket salary - I guess this has advantages and disadvantage. Dh got the job and was offered the salary he wanted, he has just had his first salary review and they are renegotiating his salary which has been dependent upon his performance over the past 8 months.

Iamsparklyknickers Wed 03-Apr-13 20:42:49

YANBU, although for a job I like the look of (or think I could do) I'll happily dictate my salary expectations without shame. You don't ask you don't get I suppose, at least I can put not hearing anything down to being overpriced rather than anything crappy about my application/CV.

On balance I'd rather not sit in an interview already thinking they're under-offering but desperate for a job so grinning and baring it.

javabean Wed 03-Apr-13 20:46:42

It's standard practice in my industry not to put salaries on job ads. Not because the jobs are badly paid, but because salaries vary so much depending on experience.

That said, I'd never be the first to name a price, I always get the employer to make the first move. And I aim higher than I want so there's room for negotiation.

redskyatnight Wed 03-Apr-13 20:48:05

Having recently job hunted, the other downside of job adverts with no salary is not being able to understand what "level" of person is wanted. I do a job that essentially the advert would read the same whether it was for a very junior person or very experienced - the salary at least gives you an idea whether you are massively over or underqualified for what might be wanted.

ILikeBirds Wed 03-Apr-13 20:50:54

YANBU

There's plenty of evidence too that wage secrecy disadvantages women more than men

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