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To start a benefits "myth busting" thread so that I can link the thickos of Facebook to it

(492 Posts)
MarmaladeTwatkins Tue 02-Apr-13 15:33:24

When they start moaning about how people on benefits can afford diamond shoes and other such items.

I'll start.

1. Housing benefit is mostly paid out to WORKING people. So all of this talk of going out and getting a job and buying their own home if they don't like the bedroom tax is a flawed argument.

Isabeller Thu 04-Apr-13 17:55:40

Wow that is incredibly interesting Saskia this Mumsnet thing is an education smile

SaskiaRembrandtVampireHunter Thu 04-Apr-13 14:01:06

PeneloPeePitstop Wiki entry for astroturfing en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

PeneloPeePitstop Wed 03-Apr-13 22:15:28
OxfordBags Wed 03-Apr-13 22:11:03

Great article from Ricky Tomlinson on benefits myths:
www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/02/ten-lies-told-about-welfare

YouTheCat Wed 03-Apr-13 22:08:37

Lemon, had you RTFT you would know that Dawn has commented aplenty on this thread and had already RTFT.

hth

Theicingontop Wed 03-Apr-13 22:04:18

"Foreigners come over here pretending they want work, then just sit on their arses and watch the dole come in"

Genuine comment from BIL.

A quick google confirms that he's deluded, and in actual fact for a migrant worker to be eligible to claim Jobseeker's Allowance, they need to prove they've been in continuous employment for 52 weeks!

OliviaMumsnet (MNHQ) Wed 03-Apr-13 21:38:21

Ahem.

TKKW Wed 03-Apr-13 21:34:50

People who "sign on" (job seekers) are not necessarily getting money for nothing. Some people just get pension credits and aren't able to get weekly money as their partners/ spouses work 16 hr+ per week.

PeneloPeePitstop Wed 03-Apr-13 21:32:20

Do you have a definition for astroturfer? New one on me...

NicholasTeakozy Wed 03-Apr-13 21:26:06

I agree with Saskia, there are some on MN who appear to be astroturfers. They only post on threads like this to put the neoliberal view. You don't see them on normal non political threads.

lemonmuffin Wed 03-Apr-13 20:16:01

RTFT dawn.

Dawndonna Wed 03-Apr-13 18:04:52

Sorry Lemonmuffin I missed your erudite and articulate post, perhaps you'd point me in the right direction.

YouTheCat Wed 03-Apr-13 18:03:33

confused

lemonmuffin Wed 03-Apr-13 18:00:17

Oh Penelopee, what fabulously articulate points you make.

I am in awe and barely know how to answer them. Not.

Isabeller Wed 03-Apr-13 00:29:12

Firstly maisie, are you near Croydon (you said you were involved in the riots, or did you say you were 'up north' - long thread & tired eyes)? I would be interested in your building work if you still need someone. I need more work and know other people who do too.

Secondly since there are some very distressed posters upset about paying for other people's benefits can anyone reassure them by suggesting what they could pay for instead. My taxes can go to benefits, yours can go to UK citizens who lose money in Cyprus bank accounts, export guarantees, enterprise zones and child protection social workers. UK taxpayers do loads of stuff with the intention of making our country a better place to live, there must be some of it you agree with.

flurp Tue 02-Apr-13 23:35:21

Not everyone living in social housing is on benefits.
Not everyone on benefits is a scrounger or a benefit cheat!

Viviennemary Tue 02-Apr-13 23:34:26

What about this cap on housing benefit. Doesn't the Queen count. Can we all have £5m a year pay rise. My expenses have gone up too this year.

grovel Tue 02-Apr-13 23:14:40

She had a great year. Performance-related pay.

YouTheCat Tue 02-Apr-13 23:14:27

I'm up in arms about it.

morethanpotatoprints Tue 02-Apr-13 23:14:06

Vivienne

Apologies misread your post smile

morethanpotatoprints Tue 02-Apr-13 23:12:49

I think many people think the Queen has enough already. They can't believe the gall tbh.
In time of austerity, when people stand to lose a significant amount of money and have a spare bedroom taxed, once again a stupid amount of millions is added unnecessarily imo.

Viviennemary Tue 02-Apr-13 23:05:58

Why are people not up in arms at the Queen getting an extra £5 million. Isn't that more than 1% rise.

Darkesteyes Tue 02-Apr-13 23:00:40

This man benefits a bad name which is so sad. But not as sad as the death of the children

Yet no one ever says/said that Harold Shipman gave the middle class a bad name!!!! <scratches head>

Darkesteyes Tue 02-Apr-13 22:58:12
Darkesteyes Tue 02-Apr-13 22:56:54

Rise in companies using zero hour contracts.

www.guardian.co.uk/law/2013/apr/02/rise-staff-zero-hour-contracts

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