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Aibu to expect abled people to move? (Pushchair related)(230 Posts)
If I see a pushchair, wheel chair, person with 101 bags and so on, walking towards me, I would, without hesitation, move out of their way.
Why does it seem that whenever I am out and about with my pushchair, 9/10 times someone will continue to walk towards me with no intention of moving out the way, therefore I end up swerving at the last to move out of their pathway!
I'm particularly cross about this today, as I was walking towards a woman (and I don't mean intentionally to knock her down,) she continued to walk directly towards my pushchair, glaring at me as if to say 'are you going to move?'. For the first time, I didn't and we both came to a standstill. Sounds ridiculous I know, but I was finally fed up with the amount of rude people I encounter and wanted to be sure I wasn't completely over reacting! This lady called me all sorts, and walked past me in a huff!
Other mothers I have spoken to in the past say they encounter this a lot. But they just swerve out of the way to avoid confrontation.
I'm not normally one for causing a scene. But I am amazed that an abled person wouldn't consciously move out of the way of somebody that has a pushchair or struggling with shopping /children etc.
I noticed my mum always stepped to the roadside of the pavement when a buggy was approaching so the buggy could pass on the inside. Same for people with small children.
I instinctively do it and I always remind dd to do it now she's older. It's no big deal and its a "nice" thing to do.
Just wanted to add, that I think calling parents "breeders" is rude. If it wasn't, we might refer to our parents in everyday conversation as that. "Oh yes, the lady who bred me invited me over for dinner but I can't go because the man who bred me has a terrible cold and I don't want to catch it".
Crashdoll - couldn't agree more! It's good to have a
moan debate at times
Ohlordi-I hate those type of people too
I've noticed recently that pushchairs are being used rather aggressively, like tanks, as a way of getting people to move out of the way. The parents go at breakneck speed along the pavement pushing this huge vehicle, not looking where they are going, and expecting everyone to move out of the way. Ignorant.
Mary In the same way you said you this was a tiny fraction of your life, it's probably most of ours too. It doesn't mean we don't enjoy
wasting spending time debating over the small things in life. Hey, where have the Easter smileys gone??!!
the last two post have tickled me :-)
and so very right! !
I once started a post in AIBU about lift etiquette. I thank God it was then and not now. I reckon I'd be flamed big time.
I do wonder sometimes if some posters just want an argument.
ie "I change my knickers every day AIBU?"
reply "YABU I change mine twice a day you minger!"
or "Think of what you're doing to the ozone layer with all those wash cycles - panties can be turned inside out and used again."
Good luck on your next outing Maryshoppins (may I recommend hiring an American Football costume? )
Must remember to pick up a "Congratulations for breeding!" card at the shops tomorrow for my expectant friend. Since it's such an acceptable term for people who have had babies.
Alberto- I couldn't agree more! I suppose I asked for it posting on Aibu. But it has got blown out of proportion. As I've said, it's a small fraction of my life, but 9 pages on, I'm still justifying myself!
Yes yes yes FakeHotCrossLobsters that sums it up perfectly.
Although I only become the lighthouse once in a blue moon. I much prefer sailing on calm seas.
Goodness there are some very intolerant people on here lately.
And I'm so bored of the "entitled" word being bandied about just because someone doesn't want to be pushed around all the time.
The OP moves for others. I move for others. Just sometimes we get fed up having to move for every goddamn pedestrian in the street. I swear some days it takes me 3 miles to walk 1 (disclaimer - that was mildly exaggerated)
Mrsspagbol - I did say someone else up thread. I don't particularly want to single that person out and say who, but it is in one of the 9 pages! No, I don't like the term, but yes, you are correct and you are well within your rights to use it!!
I will. Thanks for the permission
I am not angry at all. But feel free to assume what you will. As I said, you can attribute offence (inferred or actual) to whatever you like.
Erm, did I say what you said offended me? I was pointing out why it comes across offensive to some. You sound very angry.
Erm, did I say what you said offended me? I was
Mary and Sneezing
you are entitled to take offense at whatever you words you wish to, but I am entitled to use whatever vocabulary I want to - especially if I am not using the word incorrectly (ie misusing it in terms of meaning).
Secondly, I never referred to anyone on this thread - Mary or others - I used the word in relation to myself!
Please read my posts properly. I feel I have been saying this all day! It's so frustrating when you hone in on one word by one poster and choose to take offense - when none was actually intended.
"I think breeding/bred does come across offensive sometimes because it sounds so similar as to when people want to insult parents so call them "breeders". "
When did I insult ANY parent on this thread?! I am pregnant - I am going to BE a parent (all things going well). FGS!
I think breeding/bred does come across offensive sometimes because it sounds so similar as to when people want to insult parents so call them "breeders".
Idaclaire- in that situation, the pushchair should move! I wouldn't expect right of way all the time. It completely depends on the situation ahead. I move for a parent and child/ren without a second thought! It never occurs to me to wait for them to move.
This is all getting rather out of context as fakehotcrossedlobsters mentioned. People sometimes will not budge an inch, but are angry or surprised when you don't.
Mrsspagbol- to be fair I was talking about a poster way up thread. I generally find that when a person uses that term (all be it the correct term) it often comes across offensive and dismissive, like us mothers expect a gold star for having children! Maybe that's just me who feels that way?
I allways move for pushchairs, sometimes off the pavement, but that being said why do some people allow their children to walk on the traffic side of the pavement and not on the inside. This is a bug for me.
Maryshoppins - can I ask, what IS your issue with my posts??!! I really don't understand it.
I have just looked up the definition of breeding - and it is defined as follows:
"Breeding is the reproduction, that is, producing of offspring"
Can I ask what about that makes me so abhorrent?! Enough so that you feel the need to say "....for 'breeding' as one poster charmingly put it."
This thread (and the people who inspired it) reminds me of this old joke.
Believe it or not...this is the transcript of an actual radio conversation between a US naval ship and Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October 1995. The Radio conversation was released by the Chief of Naval Operations on Oct. 10, 1995.
US Ship: Please divert your course 0.5 degrees to the south to avoid a collision.
CND reply: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.
US Ship: This is the Captain of a US Navy Ship. I say again, divert your course.
CND reply: No. I say again, you divert YOUR course!
US Ship: THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS CORAL SEA*, WE ARE A LARGE WARSHIP OF THE US NAVY. DIVERT YOUR COURSE NOW!!
CND reply: This is a lighthouse. Your call.
Everyone seems to want to be the lighthouse now.
I've found the same thing OP, some people will not move even an inch regardless of their circumstances or yours, but they are always surprised/angry if nobody moves for them.
I was heavily pregnant and knocked to the floor by one man. I was standing still looking at a display in a shop and he walked towards me on my right hand side and just knocked me over, then shouted at me for being in his way and walked off. I hurt my arm and was very worried about my baby (third pregnancy after two late losses) and just sat on the floor and cried from the shock.
I tend to move for most people as well. I know my situation, I don't know theirs, but as I said earlier in the thread, I'm sure both people used to move slightly to avoid each other in the past and now that doesn't seem to be the case, you are either the lighthouse or the ship and most people now want to be the lighthouse.
Every day on the school run I walk along a narrow path, there are equal amounts of people coming by each way. It is wide enough for a person and a small pushchair to pass by - but only just. Either side of the path, at this time of year, is the most disgusting ankle depth sinking mud. I already wear wellies to do the run but the DC has to wear school shoes.
Many days we encounter a giant pram on the path coming towards us. No way round it.
Who should yield - ie who should go on the mud? Pram wheels, or me and my DC? By the way, I also take a baby on the school run, if that tips the scales of MN fairness.
Crashdoll- if for example, I was walking towards you with that expectant face with no smile or acknowledgement, I'd expect you to be angry and not want to move. My issue is that I am ALWAYS polite, smile and STILL most people will not even acknowledge me, they just wait for me to move. Would you in my case,wait for me to move with my double pushchair in a crowded street???
It's tedious that I'm being labeled on here as entitled or as someone making a mountain out of a molehill. This is a discussion forum. This issue is a tiny fraction of my life. I don't loose sleep over it and I don't let it spoil my day. However, I am within my rights to discuss my issue on here. The fact is, I am always the considerate one that privately fumes at other people's rudeness.
Parenting isn't a hardship. I've been doing it for years and I have never been precious or expected royal treatment for 'breeding' as one poster charmingly put it. But I find some people would prefer to railroad a person with a pushchair, out of principle because they are disgusted at the size of their pram, or because think the pushchair has inconvenienced them in some way. Rudeness!!
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