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Following on from all the bra threads...AIBU in thinking the media skews our image of bra sizes?

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I'm a recent convert to a properly fitting bra. I was wearing a 38C, but was measured and found out I'm actually a 34DD/E.

At first I thought there is no way that's right, but it is...I'm so much more comfortable now.

I was reading that story yesterday about the woman who had a boob job on the NHS (easy to find a link) and apparently she has 36DD boobs. I look at that now and think NO WAY ON EARTH are they 36DD. She's much slimmer than me so haw can she have a bigger back size? Plus the volume of boob is about twice that of mine!

AIBU in thinking no wonder so many women are surprised at their correct size, and will put up with bras that fit so badly because they think "How can I possibly be an E cup?? Look at Jordan, Pammy etc"?

Oh and thanks again to all the lovely bra women on here...the campaign is great grin

Band size not bust size, sorry.

DuckworthLewis Thu 28-Mar-13 14:02:19

With the greatest of respect, you might like to ask MN to pass on this info to the people who actually make bras?

Don't think this 'revolution' has left MN grin

Well, my bra fitter has nothing to do with MN. She works for a boutique and has been measuring people for over 20 years.

If I were to follow those guides you posted, I'd be a 38C....and that doesn't fit at all...I had no support.

I think it's just that M&S still does it the old fashioned way (and maybe Myla and La Senza too ... shows how much I know, I thought they'd gone into administration last year), but some other places don't.

Surely it is not difficult, you just ask the shop assistant or you click on the size guide on the site? confused

www.007b.com/bra-fitting.php

This isn't as good as the guide posted by Statistically Challenged but some good info here.

My fitter showed me exactly how a bra should fit, where the cup and wire should sit, how much give the straps should have etc. My old bra was so wrong it was laughable.

DuckworthLewis Thu 28-Mar-13 14:06:26

That's rather my point, the way people are talking on this thread would suggest that the adding of inches is "complete bollocks" when the evidence (actual bra fitting guides) debunks that.

duck, there are shops that do it the newer way:

www.johnlewis.com/buying-guides/lingerie-size-guide

A lot of places don't like measuring you. Bravissimo got really snotty with me about it, but then also put me in the most uncomfortable bra I've ever had, which I pointed out didn't fit so their 'we don't need to measure' idea clearly was bollocks.

DuckworthLewis Thu 28-Mar-13 14:07:42

Shall we split the difference and agree that bra fitting 'rules' depend on where you shop?

DuckworthLewis Thu 28-Mar-13 14:08:29

<<in conciliatory long weekend mood smile >>

It's hardly "evidence" when it's an arbitrary and outdated guide which leads to poorly fitting and unsupportive bras hmm.

Sometimes adding an inch is required. Say if you measure 29 under the bust then you need to try 28's and 30's to see which fits best. Adding 5 to that would lead to a narrow chested woman wearing a 34 inch band. Which is quite clearly not going to fit.

Get there in the end! grin

I will continue to follow my fitter's advice, which is to add no inches, as the bra she picked out for me fits far better than anything else I've ever worn smile

You only have to read the TENS of threads on here about this subject to see that so many women are fitted by places like M&S etc and are put in the wrong size, yet when they don't add inches and do it that way the bra fits perfectly.

The way my fitter explained it was that the back size number is how many inches it is round when closed on the loosest setting (so you can tighten it as it stretches). Surely that makes sense? Why add inches if that is the case?

DuckworthLewis Thu 28-Mar-13 14:12:33

Surely the manufacturer of the bra is best placed to determine what size woman it will fit?

Have you never wondered why M&S bras don't go below a back size 32?
By my (admittedly unscientific) reckoning, a 32" underbust measurement is approx a size 12/14? Do you not think M&S would cater for women slimmer than this?

DuckworthLewis Thu 28-Mar-13 14:15:01

Sorry x posts there, my reply was to easter

It's hardly 'arbitrary' when it comes from the manufacturer of the bra, is it?

Because M&S use the old system. And some other places use the new system. And some people think M&S bras fit badly, and others don't.

Is it suddenly rocket science?

You know clothing sizes vary too, right? And a UK 10 is a US 6, and so on? It's annoying but it's normal.

For me M&S bras are just the wrong shape, so I've never bothered to work out what would fit me best ... each to their own ...

A quick look at their site shows that isn't true. Starts at 28A

DuckworthLewis Thu 28-Mar-13 14:22:09

Look, just because someone has arbitrarily decided to use a different system from the accepted one, it doesn't make that system correct and the 'old' one wrong.

If I woke up tomorrow and decided that we should all drive on the right, does that mean it is automatically the correct way to drive thereafter? Of course not.

I will concede that the 'new way' is a lot simpler and easier to follow, but it is a significant departure from the accepted way of measuring women.

DuckworthLewis Thu 28-Mar-13 14:22:32

easter The 'Angel' range are for children!

IAmSheWhoMustBeObeyed Thu 28-Mar-13 14:25:20

Ok I am wearing a 34b, in common with quite a lot of women. Got re-sized by MN to a 30b. Went into M&S today and tried two on at that size and they just did not fit in any way.
I think its pants that every individual woman has to shop, for ages for a bra that fits because it seems that the answer is just to try on millions, in millions of different sizes and styles until with any luck you find one that fits and is comfortable.

NomDeOrdinateur Thu 28-Mar-13 14:25:48

DuckworthLewis, posters up-thread have used logic and convincing examples to explain to you precisely why the old way of measuring is inappropriate for modern bras. Why not engage brain for a moment and think about whether what they are saying makes more sense than "but the manufacturer says..."?

I'm not sure if anybody has given you the context but, in case they haven't by the time this post goes through, I'll try to explain to you why the manufacturers' guidelines are no replacement for common sense and trial and error. It's partly the development of stretchy fabrics, combined with the increased range of options available to modern women (due to the increase in disposable income for the general population, working women having more say on how much money should be spent on underwear, online shops making it more feasible to provide specialist products like the luxury of perfectly-fitting bras). High street shops haven't all caught up with the change yet, partly because a lot of their income is from "the older generations" who would baulk at the idea of switching from an ill-fitting 36B to something with a scarily-high size number that actually gives them support, and partly because it would be very bad for their business model because supplying a wider range of bra sizes would cost a lot due to different manufacturing techniques and the enormous increase in stock that they would have to accommodate. It's much cheaper for them to sell a small range of underwear, and "fudge" the fitting guidelines so they can cram any customer into something they have in store.

IAmSheWhoMustBeObeyed Thu 28-Mar-13 14:25:54

Got re-sized to a 30D!

Trills Thu 28-Mar-13 14:26:44
TeWiSavesTheDay Thu 28-Mar-13 14:27:53

Duckworth. Work out your size without adding inches. Go and find a bra in that size. Try it on with the luffly bra ladies advice.

Reveal in a bra that actually fits in a way you never dreamed possible.

Bra manufacturers do not add inches when they make bras. Bra sellers sometimes do. This is why adding inches is wrong.

grin at TeWi

"Reveal in a bra" - front fasteners are good for that wink

TeWiSavesTheDay Thu 28-Mar-13 14:30:27

grin grin

Ahem. You know what I mean!

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