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To wish my dog wasnt so fucking annoying everytime there's a bitch on heat

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YesIamYourSisterInLaw Thu 28-Mar-13 06:55:13

Whine whine whine all fucking day even when he's just got back from a walk. Arghhhhhh
I feel the feminist in me come out and start saying things to him like "what makes you think she'd even want you anyway"
Haha I know it's crazy but he's pushing my buttons. WIBU to cut his balls of myself? A pair of scissors and some ice ought to do just fine right?

FloatyBeatie Thu 28-Mar-13 09:45:24

That's not my experience of mn, lljkk. I'm sure there are threads where people express those views of course, since those views are present in the world at large just as on mn. But there are many many threads where neutering is very widely regarded as the better option.

I guess lots of people have the wrong view that neutering will cure all sorts of problems, rather than problems specifically related to sexually motivated behaviour, and that does mean that there tend to be lots of comments saying, "no no, neutering isn't the solution for that -- training is what you need". But those aren't anti-neutering comments.

DeskPlanner Thu 28-Mar-13 10:00:17

I agree with everyone else. Find a new vet.

wildfig Thu 28-Mar-13 10:52:26

I'm amazed that you've got a vet who can't control a dog enough to do an operation they could bill you a couple of hundred quid for. I think our vet would tranquillise a rampaging elephant if it was going to net him £250. Something else must have spooked him in the surgery, or there's something they're not telling you, but there is absolutely no way he knew he was about to be castrated.

'Breeding' your poor dog would be like giving him a giant cream cake then walking him past a bakery every day. Don't do it. Find a different surgery, and have him neutered, before he causes an accident.

Pigsmummy Thu 28-Mar-13 10:56:50

Go to a decent vet and get the poor woof done. Your neighbours will probably thank you too, they are probably about to do a thread about their neighbours dog.

FloatyBeatie Thu 28-Mar-13 11:12:34

It may not be that the vets were at fault. It might just have been that the aggression was sudden and caught them unawares because he had been placid earlier. So next time they might manage things much better, perhaps by getting him sedated while he is still with you, or by having you bring him in already muzzled.

When my dog was an adolescent, before I knew enough about his capacity to be nervy and fearful with people he didn't know, I left him with an experienced and sensible groomer. When I arrived to pick him up she told me he had growled very determinedly and persistently whenever she approached him, and she had decided it was better to abandon the haircut rather than force upon him something that was only going to escalate his fear and perhaps make him feel cornered into upping the aggression from growling to trying to bite.

I thought that was a sensible decision on her part. It left us free to re-think things rather than entrench his fear by blundering forwards without proper planning.

(Oh, and I didn't conclude that he somehow knew he was going to get a haircut and was determined to avoid something so emasculating. grin)

BlessedDespair Thu 28-Mar-13 11:27:26

The only time my at the time entire dog showed any interest in a bitch in heat was when my mums bitch came into heat for the first time since they'd bought her (they'd been told she was spayed). He got such a savage telling off from his love interest that he avoided all in heat bitches, even after being neutered

BabyMakesTheBellyGoRound Thu 28-Mar-13 11:31:52

My neutered dog is regularly humped by next doors spayed bitch confused grin
Good clean fun.

TheBigJessie Thu 28-Mar-13 11:44:12

Would breeding him calm him? He's a lovely looking dog ( we got stopped and told quite often) so it might be a shame not to just once.

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Why would getting to find out what sex feels like once calm him? It would make him far more desperate for it, once he knew what he was missing!

How can you be willing to humanise him so much that you believe he knew he was booked in to be neutered, and yet be willing to entertain the idea that he'd be placid and accepting about experiencing something nice once, and then never being allowed to again?

I suspect the real truth is that you've always wanted puppies and you're trying to find an excuse to have some.

Pandemoniaa Thu 28-Mar-13 11:48:57

Would breeding him calm him?

No. If anything it'll make him all the keener to get at bitches on heat.

FrustratedSycamoresRocks Thu 28-Mar-13 11:53:19

My dog is neutered, but he still goes nuts everytime nextdoors bitch is in heat. And I can always tell when a local bitch is in heat because he tracks them on walks.
Granted the day we got him neutered he walked into the vets and cocked his leg on a wet-floor sign in the middle of the room. Obviously a fingers up to us for what we were about to do.

McKayz Thu 28-Mar-13 11:57:25

Please DO NOT breed him. It will not calm him down and there is no need for a litter of cross breed dogs.

I've got an intact dog(being done in a few weeks) who has never acted like this. Must not be any entire females about.

Poor thing has got an undescended testicle so we couldn't show him.

BabyMakesTheBellyGoRound Thu 28-Mar-13 12:03:47

Wtf,you want to breed a mongrel?
Is this your first dog OP? Can I suggest maybe getting in touch with some animal shelters for some basic canine education and research?

My neutered dog had a whale of a time when my bitch was in heat (she's now sorted), it wasn't him that kept pestering her though, it was the other way round, she kept thrusting her bottom at him and wouldn't leave him alone until he had DTD to her satisfaction, the poor boy couldn't keep up with demand and spent most evenings in an exhaustive heap on the floor.

BabyMakesTheBellyGoRound Thu 28-Mar-13 12:07:10

grin Binky reminds me of dh and I trying for dc2.

GilmoursPillow Thu 28-Mar-13 12:11:46

LOL at PFD!

Sunnywithshowers Thu 28-Mar-13 12:55:08

YABU get him done FFS.

PetiteRaleuse Thu 28-Mar-13 12:56:23

My vet said that animals sense and smell death. It's possible that a dying animal had been in just before him or one had just been put down or something. That could have stressed him out. Get him done though.

Naysa Thu 28-Mar-13 14:05:21

I honestly don't believe that the vet rang you to come and get him. I think you've made that up. I did work experience shadowing a vet nurse and placid dogs quickly changed and the vet equally as quickly changed his approach. Either your vet is shit or your telling porkies.

Why would you breed from a dog that is A) a mongrel and B) shows signs of aggression?

Look at how many huskies and huskie crosses are in the pounds and shelters and ask yourself whether you want to add or prevent.

Get him neutered OP.

quoteunquote Thu 28-Mar-13 14:14:09

get him done, you can get these if looks are an issue

countrykitten Thu 28-Mar-13 14:24:14

Why would you breed a dog which clearly has fear related aggression issues? Why would you breed your dog at all?

Get him castrated by a vet who knows what they are doing (although I do find your story regarding the vet a little unbelievable to be honest)and then you will have nothing to moan about will you?

I am involved in animal rescue and am very pro-neutering. Why wouldn't you?

Maggie111 Thu 28-Mar-13 14:35:24

No one should be out walking their bitch when it's in heat!!! shock It is VERY unreasonable - plenty of dogs go insane trying to follow the scent and can run into roads etc.

Keep your girl in for 2-3 weeks angry

OP - you don't have to neuter your dog if you're responsible. I happen to think that people should neuter their pets if they're not breeding but there are health benefits to keeping them intact - it's your choice.

If you wanted to see if neutering would make any difference you can buy an implant that blocks testosterone and lasts for 4-6 months. A good trial run.

But most dogs, even neutered ones, will still go nuts for a dog in heat!!

Maggie111 Thu 28-Mar-13 14:37:49

Additional - I've just seen you ask if breeding him will calm him.

No, no it will not. Once he's been studded they change - always on the look out for the next go apparently.

And definitely don't breed because you think he's "such a lovely dog"... That's why our rescue centres are so over run.

TheBigJessie Thu 28-Mar-13 14:47:37

This thread explains exactly why there are still excess kittens and puppies in 21st century Britain.

countrykitten Thu 28-Mar-13 14:48:36

Both of our bitches are neutered - people are so irresponsible. Pet animals of both sexes should be neutered when old enough and so much heartache would be prevented.

musicmadness Thu 28-Mar-13 14:51:04

Breeding wouldn't be a good idea but if he is always on a lead I don't see a reason to neuter him unless you want to. There are health risks associated with neutering dogs, it increases the risk of certain cancers etc and that can vary depending on the breed of dog. There are also benefits to neutering but that is for each individual owner to way up.

Completely anecdotal but my dog was not neutered and never escaped and never fathered any puppies. If you are responsible it's fine. As you have said your dog is always on a lead I doubt there is much risk tbh.

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