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To buy a second hand Bugaboo Cameleon.(35 Posts)
Ok just want to see if this is a good idea or not.
Have a six month old baby, she is our second and last baby.
Bought a pushchair for my first daughter new, it is ok for the car/ shopping centres etc but not for walking or pavements as we later found out. When she was a baby (4mths) we bought a second hand off roader type pram which is now battered as we used it so much and it was tatty/old to start with.
I've been looking for a second pram to replace it with for a while. Have come across an ad for a second hand cameleon (in nearly new condtion) for just under £200 with some extras. Looking around this seems pretty good value for this pram and I guess I could ebay it when we're done with it to recoup some of the money as they seem to keep value well.
Have just spoken to my husband and he thinks that it's a waste of money (we're quite careful through choice with money). I'm not sure if it's a good plan or not? Not a particularly fashionable family, just want a good all rounder pram.
AIBU to consider this?
Sounds like a great price, and you'll still probably get some of it back if you on sell again.
Like other people said, have you tried posting on the pushchairs thread, there are some really helpful people there with trainspotter levels of pushchair knowledge They definitely helped me tremendously!
Have a look for a frog, same pram, cheaper 2nd hand because of the age.
Thanks for all the replies. Unfortunately, I now think the ad (gumtree ad) is a scam, so I'll have to have another look for a buggy. I was browsing ebay and found the exact same photo and description from a seller located at another end of the country. The starting price was £250 on ebay, not £190 as in the gumtree ad.
I don't know what the scam is, quite curious to know though?
With a 6 month old could you not go for a better stroller? I love my mclaren Volo, very light and compact and good for walking too on pavements. Doesn't recline but you can get more expensive mclarens which sell new for less than £200. I have to say my friend's chameleon is just so bulky and unwieldy it's a pain to go for a walk with her! Takes up our entire hallway when she visits and I can't say it's been great when we've been on different terrain. My sister swears by the bee though, great on towpaths she says.
Thanks for all your replies. I'd be buying it to replace my big off roader (which I tended to use for mostly everything, but kept the smaller Streety pushchair for the car/ public transport/ visiting cities).
I live on the outskirts of a town so tend to walk lots of pavements to do the school run, and walk into town to do the shopping sometimes. My previous pushchair was only folded when I needed to put it in the car on weekends to visit places like country parks and the beach as the Streety pushchair couldn't cope with terrain like that (or anything over 1cm!). Got two cars, a Laguna with a biggish boot which we tend to use with the kids and a small Clio which we don't tend to use with the kids (work, nipping out somewhere etc).
I do like the fact that all the fabrics are washable. I like that you can use it on many terrains. I like the big basket as I do put lots of things in there. I like the adjustable handle as I'm 5 3 and DH is 6 2. I like the two way facing seat. I like that it will probably fold to a smaller size than my older buggy, which was a beast! I like the potential of it keeping some of its value.
I guess it's worth a look, may go this weekend if it hasn't been sold already. The seller is two hours drive away but somewhere touristy so we can combine it with a daytrip. I was looking for something second hand for under £100ish but would consider this as it's priced well.
See I tiny get the folding thing. It takes a couple of seconds, may be three at most. And it fits in the boot of my Nissan micra. I don't think boots get much smaller than that
Once it is folded you can invert the triangle seat bit into the frame and the bits where it joins onto the frame sit on the wheels holding it snug and compact admittedly I don't use public transport, but compared to the behemoth that is an Icandy, Phil and Ted of mountain buggy it seems relatively light and compact
Don't forget that the 3rd gen chameleon is in the shops now and the price of second hand ones has dropped from around 400-500 with accessories to about 250-300. Been following it on ebay as gearing up to selling mine.
Check the tyres - if they are the pump up ones then it's not even 2nd gen (i think).
That said i loved mine - still think it was worth every penny.
Just to throw a spanner into the works I would have to disagree
I have a bugaboo chameleon which I used with ds1 until he no longer needed a buggy. I do love it but ds2 is 1 and I'm fed up of lugging it in and out of car boot and not being able to fold it so is stuck in the hall mostly for school run etc.
I never thought I'd say it but I'm buying a stroller. Not sure i can bring myself to sell my bugaboo just yet tho.
I have used my Chameleon almost every day for the last five years, over 2 babies. If I were to have another child I would buy a new hood, as it's looking distinctly tatty now, but it would survive another couple of years (I think) I have taken mine on woodland paths, through fields and lots of other places. I think its fine off road.
The front wheels swivel too - I think you have to adjust them, but whoever complained that they were fixed has missed out there.
If you are doing soft sand or slushy snow the trick is to tip it up so that you are only pushing on the large back wheels.
I love mine.
That's an amazing price - if you keep it in good condition you could probably sell it for more once it's used.
I sold my second hand Bee for more than that.
Good price for Cham assuming all of it is working. We have a Frog (older version of Cham and handle isn't height adjustable) and it's great. You can get the Frog on Ebay for about a hundred quid - would recommend it. If you want the adjustable handle go for the Cham - plus will be easier to get replacement parts.
Don't do it, unless you live in the middle of nowhere, need to take it off-road, and won't need to put in the car (or take it on public transport).
Seriously, I loved our Bugaboo for the first 3 months when I used it mainly as a carry cot & pram. However, as a pushchair it's not as good, as it doesn't fold up for public transport, I can't fit it in the car boot (only in DH's car which has a huge boot) and it's not that easy to manoeuvre round small shops. Great for walking in the muddy woods/beach with, but after 3-6 m of age, then that's all I've really found it useful for.
Oh - and the brake really isn't good enough, even from new. I wouldn't leave it anywhere on even a really slight slope just in case.
Fan I'd pay good money for a space invaders hood please, tell me more
Absolutley love ours, now on child 4, still going strong and use it for everything. Agile enough to push baby one handed and teach DS 3 how to ride his bike
We had a Cameleon and it was great, just too big to go in our car. We got a Bee second time around.
I have sold both on eBay still in great working order for amazing prices and the new owners have been delighted too.
£200 is a brilliant price for a Cam!
I can second BuggyPitStop.co.uk, I used them too and they were fab.
My friend bought a second hand frog when her ds was 6 months old. She has just sold it as had finished with it and has got back what she paid for it .
She loved it and I have to admit I needed no excuse to grab it for a push! I also made a few nice custom hoods which is a great option if you are handy with a sewing machine. I was particularly proud of the space invaders one
I found it great it's been on beaches, on commons, pavements, through woods (on paths) even through snow and carries lots of shopping
Only down side it is big and bulky
If it's in good nick, that is a VERY good price for a Chameleon.
They don't make the Frog anymore, they still make Chameleons.
Just thinking, that could be why.
I think that seems quite expensive! I'm selling a used frog on eBay for £160 at the minute. Do the chameleons go for so much more?
Thanks very much mrskeithrichards.
Due I have adaptors going spare, for the amount of use you'd get out of them it seems silly to lay out any extra so you're more than welcome to them if you can check out that they're the same!
They were bought for the frog to use with the maxi cosi seat, as far as I know the frog and chameleons are pretty much the same for most spares but double check and if they'll be any use let me know!
I've got a frog, on baby number 2 and still going strong, I love it, it's great on the beach, woods etc and general pushing. So easy to push one handed. I would go for it. Easy folded and stored, only issue I can see is for folding on buses it would be tricky to juggle with a babe in arms over an umbrella buggy but that's not an issue for us.
That sounds like a great price for a chameleon. I've got a Bugaboo Bee and love it.
Thanks so much omni, hopefully will persuade DH and view it this weekend if it's still for sale. Will keep your advice in mind.
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