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To feel sad that this could be the beginning of the end for the United Kingdom?

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SamuelWestsMistress Thu 21-Mar-13 19:40:29

I feel so sad this evening after hearing the news for the date for the referendum. I am really dreading the whole countdown to voting day because I really fear that the SNP will get their way. What would be really sad is if its a close count. I just desperately hope living here won't feel too different.

I love having a British identity despite being born in Scotland and will be so sad and angry if its taken away.

AIBU to be feeling rather worried and actually afraid by the entire thing? I really don't like the SNP. (Don't like the coalition it her, but I think they've managed to push things to come to this!)

mrsjay Thu 21-Mar-13 21:00:30

Us moan never dunno what you are on about grin

Euphemia Thu 21-Mar-13 21:01:47

There are more pandas in Scotland than Tory mps.

Long may that continue to be the case. smile

ClippedPhoenix Thu 21-Mar-13 21:03:47

If you want to stand alone as a country then do it. Don't bleed the other one dry whilst making them out as the baddies all the time.

I have had so many relatives come over and bad mouth England, yet we fund so much of Scotland???

Enough.

mrsjay Thu 21-Mar-13 21:06:37

*If you want to stand alone as a country then do it. Don't bleed the other one dry whilst making them out as the baddies all the time.

I have had so many relatives come over and bad mouth England, yet we fund so much of Scotland???*

OK then hmm

Yes that's right ClippedPhoenix, none of us work or contribute anything. Bunch of feckless scroungers we are.

Euphemia Thu 21-Mar-13 21:07:39

yet we fund so much of Scotland

Like what?

rhondajean Thu 21-Mar-13 21:09:04

Mrs may I will happily take you in my suitcase - love your DDs thoughts on Alex salmond, I call him toad of toad hall - arrogant twat sat in his imaginary motor car going poop poop...

ClippedPhoenix Thu 21-Mar-13 21:09:12

Why are you making that silly face mrsjay? basic truth is fine where i come from. Being plastic politicians isn't.

b4bunnies Thu 21-Mar-13 21:10:03

beginning of the end? that was ages ago.

ClippedPhoenix Thu 21-Mar-13 21:10:17

Umm, i think you will find we do....

OhBuggerandArse Thu 21-Mar-13 21:10:40

Erm, no BBC? Next time you go to Ireland, see what's on the telly. Yes, they have RTE, but everyone watches the BBC, ITV, Sky as well.

And it is more likely that Scotland will be part of the EU after independence than England will, if the Tories hold a referendum on EU membership.

mrsjay Thu 21-Mar-13 21:11:03

because everytime this conversation starts somebody comes onto a thread and says scotland bleeds england dry,EVERYTIME it is boring and not true ,

Weissdorn Thu 21-Mar-13 21:11:56

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HillBilly76 Thu 21-Mar-13 21:13:50

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine Thu 21-Mar-13 21:15:17

Actually Scotland technically funds the rest of the UK - we pay more into the pot than we get out.

There is a lot of concrete information out there.Have a look at the Yes Scotland website for a start. Obviously its biased but all the information is well referenced.

I don't understand all these people saying they don't like/trust SNP
/Alex Salmon.

The referendum is not about voting in the SNP for perpetuity. It is far to important to just vote yes or no based on personalities or prejudices. Please please do your own research. Look at the Yes site and the Better Together one.

Personally, anyone who thinks we could possibly be any worse off after leaving the union is insane. Have you seen what the Tories ate doing? And a change in government won't fix what the Tories are dismantling.

We are a bit protected from the worst excesses of Westminster by devolution - Scotland is in better shape than England because of this. We would be even better off under independence.

And remember the Better Together campaign - it would make every Scot one pound a a year worse off if they left the union. A price worth paying!

cozietoesie Thu 21-Mar-13 21:15:29

They can't.

ClippedPhoenix Thu 21-Mar-13 21:15:42

The truth is often boring mrsjay. Stand alone then, why would you not want this? why are you worried? does it have anything to do with finance per chance?

cozietoesie Thu 21-Mar-13 21:16:40

Sorry - that post was to HillBilly76.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Thu 21-Mar-13 21:17:10

Why would Scotland need to replace public sector jobs.We will still need teachers nurses counsellors.There would also be more admin in an independent Scottish Parliament so more jobs to offset any lost.

HollyBerryBush Thu 21-Mar-13 21:17:28

what a stupid statementholly and thatcher ruined this country all off it

Your opinion, Mrs Jay I'm allowed to have mine, or I think I am allowed.

mrsjay Thu 21-Mar-13 21:18:43

England does not fund scotland he money is share din fact mr O has taken money off us , oh well think what you like you are going to anyway clipped I quite like being part of the UK and perfectly happy with devolution and dont really want independence

ClippedPhoenix Thu 21-Mar-13 21:19:54

I'm all for each and every country being their own, forming their own unique identity, merging is messy and unproductive.

mrsjay Thu 21-Mar-13 21:20:10

Your opinion, Mrs Jay I'm allowed to have mine, or I think I am allowed.

of course you are just I think it is a stupid comment Margaret thatcher hated the north including scotland, this government are doing the same

Euphemia Thu 21-Mar-13 21:21:36

their own unique identity

How would you define English identity as distinct from Scottish identity?

rhondajean Thu 21-Mar-13 21:22:27

I'm sorry, it's a personality driven campaign based around Hrt cult of toad, it's blatantly obvious it's not what the Scottish people in general want, and I would like to know exactly how much Thr whole pointless vanity exercise is costing.

There is no sound economic or political reason for breaking up the union.

Let's just hope Orkney and Shetland do get their own referendum and bugger off to Scandinavia with the supposed oil money, it's like two kids citing over s football ATM.

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