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school have changed school start time by default

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chocoholic05 Thu 07-Mar-13 11:33:28

My dc are in reception and year 2. They have lways started at 845. They wait in the playground outside their classrooms and at 845 their teacher opens the classroom doors calls them in and the parents go back through the playground and the gates are closed. Has always been this way. We are never late. We live over a mile away and until halfterm we caught a direct bus which were every ten minutes.
At halfterm this all changed. The bus outside the school closed. Bus routes have been drastically changed. Not only do I have to walk further when we get off the bus but the buses are now every twenty minutes not ten.Theirs been campaigns petitions etc all sorts so far to no avail. Despite this they still get their for quarter to every day. A few minutes before that most days.
Last Friday we got a letter saying that from Monday the school bell will go at twenty to nine the children will be collected by their teacher at that time and then the gate will close at quarter to! So now despite the fact we aren't arriving there any later this week than last everythings changed. We are fighting against a sea of parents leaving the playground the playground is empty of children and I rush them off quickly and hurriedly and the starts in this stressed fashion! It's awful and ds2 says he misses going into school with his friends. It's awful sad

walk!!!

5Foot5 Thu 07-Mar-13 13:03:39

And think of all the money you will be saving if you do walk!

ISeeSmallPeople Thu 07-Mar-13 13:07:52

I wouldn't want to walk 30 minutes in the rain which is the default weather option here
Get the earlier bus.

Yannah2006 Thu 07-Mar-13 13:18:02

It's a half hour walk. My DS has been doing a 35 min walk since his last year of nursery.

We leave at 8.00-8.10 and still get there in time for the beginning of school.

I don't see what the problem is.

Yannah2006 Thu 07-Mar-13 13:19:36

Yes, i don't particularly like walking in the rain either, or the snow, but DS has wellies, salopettes, and a warm waterproof jacket. It hasn't killed us yet!

cumfy Thu 07-Mar-13 13:20:36

Walk

Myliferocks Thu 07-Mar-13 13:23:20

The bit I would have issue with is the short notice the school have given over the change of start time.
When one of the schools my DC attended changed start time we were given a term notice and told the reason why the school had changed it by 10 minutes.

cumfy Thu 07-Mar-13 13:25:04

How much is the bus ?

Tee2072 Thu 07-Mar-13 13:32:53

I also recommend walking. Healthy for you all, and you can leave at whatever time you need to get there on time.

My son and I leave the house at 815ish to be at school at 9, we are usually there by 845, so he has time to run around with his friends. We walk 1.5 miles. He's 3.9 years and in preschool.

sppp Thu 07-Mar-13 13:41:18

Have the kids got scooters? If they scoot it is faster than a child usually walks and you can walk briskly alongside.

Use a bike lock to tie them up at school, or bring them back home with you if they are light enough. Or scoot on one while balancing the other one on the handlebars. I do it all the time, it is easy, and so much less stressful than being at the mercy of public transport and worrying about being late.

DS3s school is 1.7 miles away. It takes less than 30 minutes to walk there at a comfortable pace. When I'm on my own and in a hurry I can make it in just over 20 minutes.

You're not being unreasonable in being peeved that the the bus times and routes have altered. However I think you're being unreasonable to complain that school are starting five minutes earlier than they used to.

Leave home just after 8.00am and walk to school. It's only a mile or so. You should arrive well before 8.30am which will give your DS time to chat to his friends and go into school with them. Stop relying on buses for such a short journey. Get the bus if it's raining/snowing etc but on dry days get walking!

EmmelineGoulden Thu 07-Mar-13 15:11:14

YANBU to think they shouldn't make such changes with no consultation and no notice to parents.

I don't think there's anything wrong with the school's new approach. That doesn't mean they should impose it in a high handed manner. It is rubbish of them. Nevertheless there is probably little you can do other than talk to a parent governor and see if you can have them instil a little more partnership into the schools approach to its relationship with student and parents.

In practice it's unlikely to change this particular decision. You're just going to have to suck it up and think about some of good practical solutions people are offering here.

ChunkyPickle Thu 07-Mar-13 15:31:38

Hold on, you took a bus rather than a 30 minute walk?

I hate to come over all three Yorkshiremen on you, but I was from a village, with no buses, and walked every day to school - 30 mins, with a summer shortcut that took it down to 20. Pretty much everyone in the village did the same - the only cars/buses were from people living in other villages or on farms.

The other advantage of walking is that you can always catch up a few minutes by walking faster, but if the bus is late there's nothing you can do.

I think YABU, and it's all very odd to be complaining at all.

Hiphopopotamus Thu 07-Mar-13 15:33:26

I'm going to go a little against the tide here - I can understand your frustration. As someone who regularly takes public transport, I understand where you're coming from. For someone that drives to work/school, a five minute earlier start means adjusting your morning by 5 minutes. For someone reliant on public transport, it can mean adjusting your whole morning schedule to fit in with timetables. It's annoying!

However, if I was you, I would probably get the earlier bus - better to have too much time, than not enough!

badguider Thu 07-Mar-13 15:35:07

A week's notice is not a lot to change the start time (even though it is only by 5 minutes), I would ask the school why they've changed it so suddenly.

However, I would agree with those who say that travelling under your own steam (foot, scooter, bike) you have far more control over your travel time for a journey of about this length.

Permanentlyexhausted Thu 07-Mar-13 16:08:55

I can't understand why you'd go on the bus if you still had a 10 minute walk at the other end. Just walk it, and get the kids to ride scooters or bikes.

jazzandh Thu 07-Mar-13 16:24:10

get a scooter yourself if you haven't a bike. Excellent adult scooters around now.

alemci Thu 07-Mar-13 16:30:14

YANBU who wants to hang around in the playground if it is raining and cold for 20 mins. If you got there before in the nick of time at 8.45 why have they made it earlier.

sounds a bit of a hike. I was very fortunate as the school was on the same road where we lived so my kids fell into school. I hated hanging around in the playground but would get them there on time.

SarahBumBarer Thu 07-Mar-13 16:44:13

Eh - YANBU. Why should you wait around for 15 extra minutes so school can start 5 minutes earlier. No way would I waste 15 minutes of my time to benefit someone else by 5 minutes - my time is valuable.

It's beyond unreasonable for the school to change the start time without consulting with the parents on this and taking things like bus times into account.

Permanentlyexhausted Thu 07-Mar-13 17:56:28

Alemci If you got there before in the nick of time at 8.45 why have they made it earlier.

Sarah Why should you wait around for 15 extra minutes so school can start 5 minutes earlier. No way would I waste 15 minutes of my time to benefit someone else by 5 minutes - my time is valuable.

Because the school does not operate to satisfy the whims of one mother! Obviously!

I can't quite believe what I'm reading!

tiggytape Thu 07-Mar-13 18:07:36

Alcemi - if you live on the same road as the school then you have the option to decide to arrive in the nick of time. The journey is predictable and not reliant on buses / getting tired walking
If you live a 20 minute bus journey away, you can't do that reliably. You can either aim to be there in the nick of time but have a major stress on days when things run later than planned. Or you can aim to be 15 minutes early knowing you've given yourself some room just in case the bus is late or the kids walk slowly from the bus stop.

On the basis that buses don't run every 5 minutes, most people decide to catch the one that will get them there early rather than in the nick of time to save the stress of risking being late. That's just common sense. You cannot expect the school or bus company to run things to suit people who don't fancy hanging around for a few minutes.
Or OP could walk everyday - in which case she could time the journey in advance and leave the house at the exact time needed to get her there for 8:44am

poshme Thu 07-Mar-13 18:17:30

Slight red herring here, but all the people expressing amazement at people not walking when it's only 30 minutes- it's 30 minutes walk for us, along a country lane with no pavement, with very bad visibility and speed limit of 60mph. We very rarely walk as its so dangerous.
Walking isn't always as easy as people suggest.

RustyBear Thu 07-Mar-13 18:25:49

There used to be a requirement for Governing bodies of community and voluntary controlled schools to consult parents before changing the times of the school day, and a change to the start or finish was only supposed to happen at the beginning of a school year, but this requirement has recently been revoked. But there is still a general statutory duty on governing bodies to act reasonably. Our LA has interpreted this in guidance to Governors as meaning there is an expectation they will still consult 'as they consider appropriate', and give reasonable notice to parents.

foxache Thu 07-Mar-13 18:39:37

The changes have made the OP's morning routine suddenly much more difficult. It sounds as if she had a good structure in place until four days ago, it's unfair of the school to have changed so suddenly.

Why did this thread have to turn into attacking her? After the first ten or so posts telling her to walk, surely you know she would have got the message, didn't it feel like ganging up?

alemci Thu 07-Mar-13 18:40:19

no but is it the end of the world if they are occasionally late.

As I said before it is no fun being in a cold playground for 20 mins before the start of school and I agree with Sarah about time being precious.

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