Would I be unreasonable to think that a small than average child has a lower than average IQ, whilst a taller than average child has a higher than average IQ?

(44 Posts)
Howsaboutthat Tue 05-Mar-13 18:32:03

I suspect that I probably would be if I thought that for a minute.

So why when a child small for their age does something well for their age it is commented by so many people as being such a great achievement, whilst when a child large for their age does something well for their age it is commented by so many people that of course they would do well it is down to them being bigger.

I have one of each child -
The short one finds the responses very patronising
The tall one finds the responses very critical.

numbum Tue 05-Mar-13 22:36:56

I agree. DD is short for her age and everyone always comments on how brilliant she is although she is brilliant of course. But I've seen children much taller than her doing thing she can do and their efforts being shrugged off.

I think DD benefits from it confidence wise but do feel bad for those taller children

Lueji Tue 05-Mar-13 22:23:30

Because people equate size with age.
Even if they know the age.

Also, my reasonably tall ex was fairly fick, whereas I'm on the shortest side and have always been fairly bright - best student in class type, but also usually good at solving problems. except when I married him

For some reason tall people tend to be more successful than shorter people, but it may well be due to other people's perceptions of them than to intelligence.

MrsWolowitz Tue 05-Mar-13 22:04:18

I'm tall but am totally fick.

grin

Revengeofkarma Tue 05-Mar-13 22:04:08

I was always the tallest child and also the youngest (summer birthday and skipped a year, so two years younger. Still the tallest, though.). It drove me crazy.

Now though, people wonder where I got my leadership skills. "Because I've been put in charge of everything ever since I could remember because I was the tallest." And yes, I'm smart and have been identified as such from early on (see skipped year above), but to assume that height=intelligence would mean that everyone shorter than I am, which is the vast majority of the population, is not as smart as I am. That's simply ridiculous, though it would be nice for it to be true - I'd have made a fortune by inventing something or the money markets or something! Equally, if the presumption were true, we could determine lack of intellect by people being short. I'm not going to break it to Phelan Hill that he's not very bright. Would you?

It is the perception of the age thing in kids with height. Ad it isn't true, and it isn't fair and it isn't right, but then lots of things in life aren't. Find some good role models for your kids to show them how it can still benefit them ultimately, whichever end of the spectrum they are on, and don't be afraid to let idiots know they're being idiotic.

seeker Tue 05-Mar-13 21:56:31

Having such a fantastic IQ, you will be fully aware that anecdote and data are different things......

blackeyedsusan Tue 05-Mar-13 21:53:47

ds is little and cute looking. just as well really. he has asd and can occasionlly look about 1-2 years younger in behaviour. it is less embaressing when he only looks 3!

YouTheCat Tue 05-Mar-13 21:52:32

grin

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Tue 05-Mar-13 21:51:35

I know a really thick tall person too grin

YouTheCat Tue 05-Mar-13 21:47:49

WhenSheWas, I hope you aren't referring to me as one? grin

YouTheCat Tue 05-Mar-13 21:46:31

My dad was 5ft4 and played rugby for Sunderland 1st team. Height has nothing to do with it. Halfpenny, who plays for Wales, is quite small.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Tue 05-Mar-13 21:45:25

youthecat I assume you know what an outlier is then given your lovely high IQ? grin <for what it's worth I don't buy into the taller = smarter thing>

seeker Tue 05-Mar-13 21:44:23

It depends what you ae talking about. Anyonr who said "he did very well in the maths test, considering his size" would be completely bonkers. Anyone who said "he did very well in the rugby match considering his size" would be being perfectly reasonable.

chartreuse Tue 05-Mar-13 21:36:07

Ds is very small for his age, he is nearly 13 but wears 9-10 clothes. It makes his life a misery as he is constantly teased. He has an IQ of 136 which is in the gifted range. He would prefer to be taller and less intelligent.

landofsoapandglory Tue 05-Mar-13 21:30:11

My DC have always been tall. People presumed they were older than they were, but I don't think they thought they were more intelligent than a smaller person.

I was always tiny, and I don't remember people saying I did something well for my size either.

There's no correlation and people make that assumption because dim as mince is the prevailing wind.

It's a similar thought in misogyny where in the 19th century men tried to prove that women shouldn't have the vote because their brains were smaller.

ceeveebee Tue 05-Mar-13 21:24:46

Ah shut up, I'm 5 foot nothing and am far more intelligent and than my d umb sis who is 5 ft 7.

Floggingmolly Tue 05-Mar-13 21:24:20

People making the comments are probably just assuming they're older / younger than they actually are, nothing more.

FanjoForTheMammaries Tue 05-Mar-13 21:21:44

Well.my DD is 6..on the 98th centile for height..and just mastering "hello"wink

HollyBerryBush Tue 05-Mar-13 21:18:23

Height and aethetically pleasing looks = earning power.

Plenty of studies to corroborate that. Although someone is going to pop up with a vertically challenged child with the IQ to equal Sheldon

YouTheCat Tue 05-Mar-13 21:13:39

What a load of bollocks! I'm less than 5ft and my IQ is somewhere over 130. If it was true, and I was taller, I'd be a fucking genius. hmm

Expectations of small children should have nothing to do with their height. Just plain silly.

BrandiBroke Tue 05-Mar-13 21:09:35

My mum was a teacher and she used to get really exasperated with other teachers expecting more from the taller children than the smaller ones. One girl was very tall for her age and my mum had to have a bit of a chat with the teacher who found her 'immature' and was surprised at the struggle she was having learning to read. She wasn't any more immature than the other children and her struggles had nothing to do with her size. My mum sympathised as she'd had 2 very tall children and was tall herself as a child.

People do expect more from tall children. I've known people let some kids get away with things they wouldn't let others - purely because they are 'little and cute.' If taller children did the same thing it would be a case of 'don't do that - you're supposed to be a big sensible boy/girl. '

I remember being taught that about IQ and height at university.

However you have a point about people assuming the age of a child from their size and treating them in line with their perceived age. I remember my tall DD being told that she was too big to have me carry her at a restaurant and it was her second birthday, but the waitress thought she was at least 3.

people think bigger means older. even if they know the age in their head they are thinking older.

RedToothBrush Tue 05-Mar-13 19:13:22

I think that size is associated with age and intelligence and its not just in children!

I know all my friends that are regularly ID are short arses. The tall ones are not.
And that they are also treated accordingly; if you are shorter you tend to be patronised and spoken down to more than if you are bigger. I think people adjust their expectations of someone based on psychical build throughout life.

stealthsquiggle Tue 05-Mar-13 19:06:57

DC do it themselves, though - there is a boy in DD's Y1 class who is tiny compared to DD (who is, admittedly, the tallest) and his mother tells me that most of his complaints about people treating him "like a baby" are about his classmates - even though they all know perfectly well that he is the same age [confsued].

Even in Y6, DS has a mate who is about half his height (OK, not quite, but DS is about 5ft 5 and this child must be not much over 4ft) and he seems to have adopted a very loud, in your face (in a nice way) persona to make sure that he gets noticed and to forstall any attempts at patronising him.

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