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To start the Lighter Life diet?

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yoyomagic Sat 23-Feb-13 22:17:14

A long post with some background!

I've struggled with my weight for YEARS! I'm in my thirties with children and am at my wits end now.

I have Poly-cystic Ovary Syndrome which makes it increasingly difficult to loose weight. With every year that passes, I seem to gain approximately 1/2 - 1 stone in weight. As many people with PCOS know, the more weight you gain, the harder it is too shift - it's a viscous cycle.

I'm not pinning all my weight gain specifically to having PCOS. I have a really sweet tooth and love chocolate! But, my overall diet is good. I'm a vegetarian, eat lots of fresh fruits and salads daily. I don't eat take always or fried food. My downfalls I guess, is chocolate/biscuits, bread and my lack of desire to exercise.

I've never done extreme dieting - I don't think I'd have coped with the lack of food. I've always opted for diets such as Slimming World and Weight Watchers in which I could eat a wide variety of food and good amounts to fulfil me. I always managed to loose around 1 stone, but would then come to a standstill, or would juggle around with a few lbs on and off over a period of weeks.

This leads to frustration, and I feel disheartened and uninspired. I end up letting the sweet stuff creep into my 'diet' and by the end of the year, it builds up gradually to the point of putting on approximately 1/2-1 stone.

I don't binge eat, or eat vast amounts of sweet treats, so I don't feel my size justifies what I eat.

As I said, I don't work out. I have found with each year that passes and the bigger I have got, I feel too lethargic to exercise. I work full time and combined with raising a young family and all that entails, I am too exhausted to work out in the evening. I am active though. I am always 'on the go' and walk most places. I definitely am slowing down though as I have become larger.

So I am basically considering a drastic weight loss plan to at least bring me into a reasonably healthy BMI. I hear a lot of stories of people who have had great (short lived) success on the LL diet, only to have gained all the weight back and more. But my way of thinking, is that If I have lost a considerable amount (I need to loose roughly 5 stone), then as my diet on the whole consist of good foods, then I should be able to maintain a healthy BMI? I truly believe it is mostly down to my PCOS that I struggle to loose weight.

Does anyone have any experience with Lighter Life? Or is anyone in or has been in a similar position that could offer advice? I can't bear another fat summer!

tiggins Mon 22-Apr-13 13:50:07

If you want to do LL or Cambridge or any other diet infact you should go ahead and try it and not be put off by the negative comments here. I found LL was the only thing i was able to stick to and reach my target on, the fact that you lose it fast really motivates. I maintained perfectly well afterwards as I had changed many habits, was exercising daily and loved being slim and so much healthier. Everything about my life was improved by getting the weight off. If you want to do that through LL then best of luck to you, its a great diet and its worth the money in my opinion if it brings you the happiness and a lower BMI that you're looking for.

Illustrationaddict Mon 25-Feb-13 21:41:03

Hi, I just did a search on how you can find a qualified dietician or nutritionist. There are links on this page - hope it helps, good luck with it:

http://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/find-a-registered-dietitian-or-nutritionist.aspx?categoryid=51&subcategoryid=168

countrykitten Mon 25-Feb-13 17:32:11

BTW - I have met a few people who have done this kind of diet and when I was in my 20s and stupid I did the Cambridge Diet. Works until you eat.

It ages you terribly to keep on losing and then putting back on weight that you have lost quickly through one of these diets. Think of your poor body.

countrykitten Mon 25-Feb-13 17:29:20

If you are over 30 your skin will suffer and you will have acres of saggy skin due to the rapid weight loss. Not an attractive prospect.

Do it slowly and carefully - low carbing is really effective as it will also curb your appetite - and get plenty of exercise to make sure that you tone up.

Dottiespots Mon 25-Feb-13 17:13:05

Hey Pudding25 are you on the Happy New Year Paul Mckenna thread???? Dont recognise the 25 bit.
Pessarypam Well I still think you were brave. Im 51 and am only a stone over the weight I would like to be but am exercising and eating mindfully to achieve that target this summer. So how much did you lose?

TooExtraImmatureCheddar Sun 24-Feb-13 22:11:39

I know 2 people who have done/are doing LL.

A friend of mine has just lost 45lbs on it and is now entering maintenance. He was 17 stone and wanted a quick and dirty fix. His wife has also done it and lost 6 stone. He says she is struggling with food issues and is petrified of putting the weight back on. It will be interesting to see how he manages maintenance.

A friend of my mum's did it a few years ago, lost 4 stone and then put it all back on. She keeps restarting it and then falling off the wagon.

I think if you have a significant amount to lose it must be really tempting to do something so fast. I remember how dispiriting it was when I was trying to lose 2 stone - I'd think 'yay, 2lbs off this week - only 20 more to go, boo!' How about a compromise - do LL to lose some of it, and then follow the Low Carb Bootcamp to learn a healthier way of eating that can last a lifetime? I have read great things about PCOS and low carb.

Pilgit Sun 24-Feb-13 22:09:28

I did it. Lost 10 stone. Helped me get pregnant. But you do have to be careful about your health and watch the blood pressure drops so you don't randomly faint all over the place.... The counselling can be hit and miss. I was lucky, my counsellor was a professional therapist and only did LL as a side line and was very good. I haven't won the battles with my eating and am currently about 6 stone over where i want to be (just had DD2 though and the only way to stop the morning sickness was eating) but I am aware of the reasons I over eat now and aware of what i need to do.

One thing is true though - the diet industry has no real interest in diets succeeding as if they did they wouldn't make anywhere near as much money! Didn't realise the owner of LL was so far overweight - loving the irony.

pudding25 Sun 24-Feb-13 21:51:39

Awsangel -Was going to post what you did. Diets don't work. It is a multi million pound business. Please read Paul Mckenna. It will change your life. (Plus see a specialist about your PCOS).

PessaryPam Sun 24-Feb-13 21:26:27

awsangel I was not brave just hit 50 and was contemplating death or change. Now I have a life and a future.

AlanMoore Sun 24-Feb-13 19:38:11

If you've got £70 a week to throw at the problem then get a personal trainer and a few sessions with a nutritionist and aim to improve your health and fitness.

I used to work with PCOS sufferers and anecdotally they did well on low ish carb/gi foods and lots of gentle exercise. I don't think a vlcd will be good for your moods tbh and you have about a 90% chance of putting all the weight back on - surely better to take a longer view?

Good luck! It's bloody hard

Dottiespots Sun 24-Feb-13 19:15:45

As someone else pointed out....the Lighter Life founder has not remained slim but has made millions from selling this product. Jacquie Llewellyn Bowen has regained alot of her weight she lost as has Pauline Quirk. And it definately has a long track record of people losing their hair in clumps because you are NOT eating anywhere enough food to keep your body functioning. VLCD are a terrible thing to do to your body and just cause your metabolism to reset even lower.

HerrenaHarridan Sun 24-Feb-13 17:45:48

£70 a week shock
Does this diet work because you can no longer afford food?

Good luck OP, I'm considering it myself, I'll look at the Cambridge diet as well.

Dogsmom Sun 24-Feb-13 17:02:44

yoyo in answer to your question I can't say I never felt hungry on LL or Cambridge but it was psychological, if I started to let myself think about what I would LIKE to eat then my stomach would rumble so for me distraction was key, as soon as I started to let my mind wander to food I'd make myself think of something else or go and do something which was usually to go upstairs and try on clothes that had been tight 2 weeks before that now either fit or were too big, it was huge motivation.

I've done every diet on the market over the years and find SW & WW much harder because you still have to shop and eat, I did have eating issues and I imagine it'd be like telling an alcoholic to go to an off licence every day and to go home and drink one can, a lot of them would drink more.
Thats why the vlcd diets suited me because it took all that out of the equation.

As I said before it is unfounded rubbish that the faster you lose it the faster you regain it, once you are at your goal as long as you don't go back to old ways and stick within a healthy calorie allowance per day then you wont regain it, same as with any diet.

Like others have said no diet will solve your issues with food, only you can do that but for me I found 'normal' diets soul destroying, I can't be doing with sitting in a group listening to people almost boast about how they've had a 'bad week' or be clapped for losing half a pound, I needed a quick fix to get rid of the flab then to get my mind around keeping it off and it was easy.

Dottiespots Sun 24-Feb-13 17:00:49

Pessary for me its got to be if its sustainable for life. No "diet" seems to be for life. They deprive you of food in one form or another. I dont think people have a setting wired wrong so much as how food is perceived in early life. If your mother diets or people around you diet or you are called fat then you grow up with a belief that your not good enough and that you will be better if your thin. This leads people to start depriving themselves with the reward of weight loss which inevitably leads to weight gain when not depriving oneself. I eat whatever i want, when Im hungry and stop as soon as Im full. Im glad that you have sorted out your problem with having an operation to remove part of your stomach and that it works for you but OMG you are very very brave. I could never do that to myself . I would like to be a stone lighter and have started upping my exercise to achieve this by summer.

PessaryPam Sun 24-Feb-13 16:34:52

I suppose the acid test is looking at loss and whether or not it stays off over say a 5 year period? I am totally unconvinced that the average weight struggler can do it on their own. They have a setting wired wrong. For me removing the stretchy part of my stomach sorted it. I now know what it's like to have a normal appetite.

Mia4 Sun 24-Feb-13 15:54:41

It's your choice but i think all these sort of diets make for an awful association with food and they fail in the long run because of that. The people i know who've done diets like this have to constantly be going back on them and have issues with food.

he only diet i've ever done that i know works is 'rosemary connellys low fat one' but again, i'm not sold on diets. I did that one to lose inches and found i changed my diet even when off it to include everything you eat in the diet but with some of my 'happy foods'.

But you must find a way to exercise too, hard as it may be, and tbh most of us actually do have the time, we just don't want to make it. Most people can get up an hour earlier, or bed later and do it at home. I was the words worst saying i had no time but at that time i could watch eastender, corrie and emmerdale- so actually i did have time and gave them up to do it in. Ididn't ike giving them up, that was my 'relaxing time' but I wanted to lose the weight so i did. Also when i liked Eastenders i borrowed a mates idea and hulahooped while watching.

One friend swears by power plates for weight loss, another has quite a few fitness DVDs and does them after work at home-she also skips a lot in the backgarden and has a hula hoop which she swears by rather then wasting money on a gym.

Dottiespots Sun 24-Feb-13 15:32:17

I stopped "diets" years ago but do tailor my eating to suit my body. Carbs do cause me bloating but cant stick to completely carb free permanently but low carb New Atkins is good and you dont have to start with induction. You can start in the phase 2 where your allowed a little bread and carb.
But for me the best way to go is with "Not Dieting". Dieting causes the cycle of diet binge diet binge and before you know it years and years and years have gone by and you are fatter. You are then at the point where you dont understand why. Have you had a look at Paul McKenna I Can Make You Thin Thread . There up to their latest thread which is "HAPPY NEW YEAR HAPPY PAUL MCKENNA!!! These ladies dont diet they just eat when they are hungry (truly hungry) , eat what they want, and stop when they are full. Its eating like a slim person would and how children do before they get lost in the diet trap. There is a book and a hypnotic CD which really helps you to get back in touch with your real normal hunger signals and these ladies have lost their excess weight this way. Its not quick but by the end of the year you could have lost all your weight and it wont go on again because you will have learned to listen to your own body. What could be more perfect.
There is also another thread using the Paul McKenna Hypno Gastric Band CD which I believe is amazing and hypnotises people into believing they have a real gastric band and therefore they cannot over eat and dont want to anymore.
So before you shell out money for lighter life or other "diets" you could try to get back to you.grin

SoleSource Sun 24-Feb-13 13:02:36

Veer off plan with any diet and weight gain is inevitable. Cambridge diet is not dangerous neither is LL.
Liquid diet stage of above is step ONE of Several.

Arm yourself with tbe FACTS.

My problem is finding a sane Cambridge consultant

uggmum Sun 24-Feb-13 11:57:37

I have struggled with my weight for years. I have always had a really sweet tooth. I can eat sweet stuff endlessly and never be full. As a result I became very overweight.

I tried all diets, ww, slimming world (put 6 pounds on in the 1st week). I thought I had no willpower.

I then tried the Dukan Diet, (effectively low carb). This really worked for me. I lost 4 stone and I was never hungry. My sweet tooth was turned off.

I am believer that most diets do work but it is a case of finding one that works for you and we are all different. I have a few friends who have had great success with LL and Cambridge. You do lose the weight really quickly and it spurs you on.

You may find that a low carb diet might suit you better as you can eat fairly normally with a few adjustments. I don't specifically follow 'Dukan' these days but I maintain my weight with low carb.

They are some great low carb bootcamp threads and people are having great success. You could pop over and have a look to see if it would suit you. There are simple rules to follow and plenty of people to help you out.

VenusStarr Sun 24-Feb-13 11:42:43

Emotional eater, sorry!

VenusStarr Sun 24-Feb-13 11:41:50

Why not try writing down the foods you eat in a food diary (as someone else has suggested) and then try to set yourself achievable goals. Such as only having chocolate on 5 days, then 4 then 3 so eventually chocolate isnt a norm for you. Also think about increasing your physical activity, so going for a 10 minute walk on 3 days and build this up to 4 days, 5 etc then increase the amount of time you walk. Just doing small amounts of activity will help. It sounds like you need to make some lifestyle changes, but if you can build up to these changes you're more likely to stick to the changes. Diets like lighter life give people quick results but from what I understand from that diet it is dangerous and of course people lose weight but when they start to eat normally they haven't made any lifestyle changes so the weight goes back on and you get stuck in a vicious cycle. If you are an emotional water, perhaps examining your emotional relationship with food would help. Find something that gives you a similar effect to lift your mood. If you google Northumberland Tyne and Wear Self help, they have some self help booklets and there is one looking at food, that might be a good start to take control of your diet.

Another low carber here - 60 lbs off since last August, and still going strong. I'd advise against LL or the Cambridge Diet because they don't help you change your eating patterns for life, they're quick-fixes which put your body under immense strain and are not sustainable.

Being a vegetarian makes low carbing a little more of a challenge, but still possible so long as you like eggs, cheese, maybe tofu? I don't see it as a diet, really, it's a permanent change in the way I eat, and the reason I can say this is because it's enjoyable, I don't feel at all deprived and I'm not continually fighting hunger or cravings.

The 5:2 diet seems another sensible and sustainable way to lose weight - low carbing isn't for everyone, but the key is to find something you enjoy and can see as a permanent change, not something you do for a few weeks then yo-yo back to where you started (or beyond!). Good luck!

melbie Sun 24-Feb-13 10:50:59

I did and it changed everything. I agree it is not a long term solution- it is not meant to be. It is about going cold turkey on food and getting you to the weight you want while at the same time giving you the skills that mean you might not put it back on afterwards and addressing the underlying reasons. The groups are supportive and the weight loss is quick which means you keep going.

I found it the easiest diet I had ever done, and was not hungry at all and less tempted by food than you can imagine. It was incredibly easy to stick to. I think it is great if you have tried the other diets and have just not stuck to them.

BUT- afterwards you need to make sure you change your ways or obviously you will put the weight back on. I found the time away from food changed my relationship with it and let me do this. I no longer emotionally eat. I eat when I am hungry. It is amazing the difference it makes! But then any diet is like that- unless you make some sort of permanent change of course the weight will go back on.

ChestyNut Sun 24-Feb-13 10:46:51

Can I just say that if you do any weight loss programme and then go back to your old eating habits you will put the weight back on. This isn't exclusive to LL or other VLCD.

If you are totally committed to a lifetime change of eating habits then LL IMO is a fantastic way to loose a significant amount of weight quickly. But you must attend the counselling sessions and management modules to assist you in maintaining.
They use CBT in the sessions.

You may find that your PCOS symptoms improve with the weight loss as insulin resistance should be reduced once you are at a healthy BMI.

If your at that stage where you've tried everything and your weight is affecting you then I say give it a go.

Good luck thanks

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