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to think it takes the piss to have to pay £100 a year to continue nursing?(99 Posts)
I have been a nurse in the NHS for over 10 years now, and each year I have had to pay a yearly fee to maintain my professional registration. Last year the fee was £76, and this year it has increased to a whopping £100.
Obviously I earn an enormous salary as a nurse so I can easily afford this .
Does anyone else thinks this takes takes the bloody biscuit really? As I understand it other professionals have to pay an annual fee to stay on a professional register too. I was wondering how these fees compare to the one for the NMC.
My professional fees are currently £300 a year, and my employer does not contribute to the cost although holding the affiliation to our professional body is a requirement of the role. I was paying far more than £100 a year 15 years ago when I started work in my industry, even when my salary was £12k.
And they spent all our money doing up their offices then put our fees up
it's still one of the cheapest professional reg fees out there but agree in so much as it grates to pay the NMC because they are at best useless, at worst corrupt bullying bastards!!
Lol @ time back in lieu. Not where I work. In my last job I did at least 30 min unpaid overtime every single shift and I don't earn 30 grand either!
I agree with the doctor up thread, junior docs aren't exactly rolling in it and shouldn't have to pay what are essentially consultants rates for everything.
My professional membership is only £50 per year, so thankfully a lot less than some, but I still resent having to pay it myself as it only really benefits my employer not me.
Being tax deductable doesn't solve the problem as you only get 20% of the cost back if you're a basic rate tax payer, so I'm not going to bother filling in a tax return to reclaim the princely sum of £10 per year.
To add fuel to the architects pay argument, I know two and they both earn so much that they are no longer entitled to child benefit (ie £60K+ PA). I know an architect's wife, who is on nearly £50k herself and she was complaining that their CB was being taken away, but she couldn't see that it makes no sense to pay benefits to a family that are in the top few % of household incomes.
Knackered - I am not a clinical sister and earn much less than £30,000. I said in my post that the sister had not been informed. I did not say that the sister was myself.
I also said the op was bu. I feel the professional fees are reasonable, however the nmc does need to get its house in order.
As for getting time back in lieu....it will be in dribs and drabs of half a hour here and there.
I'm a junior doctor (Ie. I'm not a consultant yet). My professional expenses total around 1500 quid / year. I'm not currently in a union so that cost is excluded.
Believe me - I don't earn 15 times more than a nurse! Every single course I go on has a nurses rate and a doctors rate. They are often disproportionate to the relative amounts we get paid (i.e. doctors pay a lot more).
My friends who are accountants/ solicitors and the like tend to have similar costs to me but their firms usually pay on their behalf. My brother (solicitor) was gobsmacked that I was deliberating over subscribing to the journal most relevant to my professional sub specialisation - which isn't available through the NHS library system - it costs about 120 quid per year. If he want something similar his secretary would arrange it (and he is much more junior than me in career terms).
Aged, you say you are not well paid but I know very few nurses who earn less than £30k with unsocial hours. As a clinical sister you will be earning this at least, most likely without working unsocial hours.
As a professional you are salaried and as a professional that means putting in the extra hours when needed. If you were meant to finish at lunchtime yesterday but stayed to run a clinic I have no doubt you can take that time back in lieu.
I really don't understand why professional nurses think it is unfair they pay fees to be a member of a professional body.
YABU. The nmc cannot even do it,s job properly.
As for being well paid.....I did an extra clinic yesterday. An extra clinic put on by managers for Friday afternoon. Patients informed of appointments, medical records informed of clinic, doctors informed of clinic. Clinic sister informed of extra clinic no.
So I spent 4 hours yesterday afternoon running this clinic for the princely sum of £00.00 as there is no money to pay for extra staff. Yes I feel extremely well paid. And if I had not done it these patients could not have been seen.
About £500 practising certificate fee for me with insurance on top.
As a professional engineer I have to pay over £300 per year but my employer counts it as a business expense and reimburses me. I am surprised to hear that is not the norm for healthcare workers.
Teachers in Scotland and Wales still pay fees to GTC.
As a childminder I pay £35 to Ofsted and £80 (ish) to NCMA for membership and insurance.
Lots of private sector workers are on pay freezes or on reduced wages when they return to jobs after being made redundant. And many have been for much longer than public sector workers have.
My DH still earns £3k less than he did before he got made redundant in 2008! He works in construction in a role not dissimilar to architecture.
We (teachers) used to have to pay the GTC, but thats been abolished..... Im sure the Government will come up with something we have to pay soon.
I don't think £100 in professional fees is much.
I'm another doctor so have to pay much more for professional fees, medical indemnity, membership of colleges, etc as others have said.
I think you get away quite lightly compared to most other professions if this thread is anything to go by!
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Nurses are actually quite well paid, I know as I used to be one.
So glad someone said that before me.
OP, you are a professional so you have to pay fees. Unlike most professionals you do not have student loans to pay back as your education was paid for by the NHS.
£100 is £2 a week, not really that much.
Tax relief is only of benefit if you're earning though. I'm currently on a self funded course in a unpaid placement so earning a bit fat zero but paying out for NMC, RCN, travel and childcare. Hey ho, gotta think long term!
Roseformeplease Teachers pay too
What do they pay to be a teacher then? I always assumed that it is only union fees teachers paid, not to register with a professional body. As a Nurse we are like lots of other professions, including many listed here, that have to pay to be on the professional register plus union fees to. On the plus side at least I can pay the union fees monthly at £20 a month to Unison. My biggest bug bear with the NMC is they wont let you pay the registration fee monthly by direct debit and its always due in 1 lump sum, now £100.
education credits? when do any of us have any time to go on courses? its a joke really. I pay it by standing order. What annoys me mostly is that bang on that day, without fail, my boss calls me at home to ask why I havent paid my fee and that I cant come back to work unless its sorted. Err... I have a standing order I assume its dealt with. Every sodding year....
I have to pay to maintain my nursing license here in the US, due next month, it's not as expensive $120 every two years, and on the year I don't pay that I have to pay for continuing education credits, 30 hours every two years, I got lucky last year and found a sale on classes, only cost me $55 for the whole 30 hours.
Are UK nurses having to pay for education credits too?
We are moving back soon I don't think my UK license will even be valid anymore, I've been home with Dd. I'll need the back to work thing they do.
Oh bollocks, I didn't know it had gone up. I'm due to pay again next month
RCVS fees (professional body) - £300
VDS fees (insurance against getting sued) -not sure how much because my employer pays these, not the case for everyone though
BVA (closest thing to a union, not essential but nearly is) - £280
Earn about the same as an advanced nurse.
Wonder stuff : I wish, it's a real myth that plumbers earn a lot- mainly arising from the Pimlico Plumbers programme. It's only the owner of the company that earns that and he has an awful lot f plumbers working for him! Your average one man self employed plumber is not making much. Nurses are actually quite well paid, I know as I used to be one.
It's only tax deductible if you are actually paying tax.
I'm an slt, and have spent two or three years doing a small amount of independent work (therefore under the threshold for paying tax).
I have done this mainly to maintain my registration, and avoid expensive and time consuming retraining in the future.
I pay £200ish to the royal college of Slts, £75ish to HCPC, and £100 to the association for independent SLTs. I pay for public liability insurance (£85), and also £40 to be registered with the data protection agency. I also have a budget of about £500 per year for CPD.
These costs are the same whether you do a tiny amount of work each year, or loads, and can mean its quite a challenge to maintain registration.
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