Schoolboy taught in isolation for wearing a real tie not a clip on one

(52 Posts)
MariusEarlobe Thu 14-Feb-13 18:51:59
germyrabbit Thu 14-Feb-13 18:54:04

mad response but they are reviewing the policy

insancerre Thu 14-Feb-13 18:54:21

* The school has agreed to review the policy. Nardeep Sharma, headteacher, said the rule was introduced about three years ago to support the health and safety of young people.

He said: "This was in line with the practice in most secondary schools nationally. *
That is the biggest pile of bs I have ever heard.
Teenagers need protecting from dangerous ties? Really ? hmm

Fanjango Thu 14-Feb-13 18:55:15

This is DS school. They have a strict uniform policy. May seem odd to ban ties completely if they are not clip on but that's the rule.

shrimponastick Thu 14-Feb-13 18:55:35

As did mine from the age of 6.

At DSS school they wear clip on ties. He is now 16 and had to be taught how to tie a tie last week.

If ties are so dangerous sort out the root of the problem instead.

meditrina Thu 14-Feb-13 18:56:06

I wonder where on earth they got the idea that most secondaries have mandatory clip ons? DSes certainly don't, and judging by appearances, none of the ones round here do either.

Yes, I suppose he should wear correct uniform or face the school's normal penalty for not doing so. But clip-on ties are just awful. (And secondary boys bent on damaging each other aren't going to be dissuaded from that course of action because of type of tie).

shrimponastick Thu 14-Feb-13 18:56:23

As did mine from the age of 6.

At DSS school they wear clip on ties. He is now 16 and had to be taught how to tie a tie last week.

If ties are so dangerous sort out the root of the problem instead.

hackmum Thu 14-Feb-13 18:57:05

ffs, if ties are that dangerous, why have them at all? Why not have a uniform without ties? Radical idea, I know. I honestly think some headteachers haven't got the sense they were born with.

shrimponastick Thu 14-Feb-13 18:57:12

Sorry for repeating myself.

ComposHat Thu 14-Feb-13 18:59:01

Why not get rid of fucking ties altogether. Fucking pointless at the best of times, doubly so when it is clipped on.

I say bring back the cravat.

Classrooms full of mini Terry-Thomases.

MariusEarlobe Thu 14-Feb-13 19:01:41

Children have been wearing proper ties at secondary for decades. Where I grew up most wore them from four too!

It's only recently they've introduced clip ons.

For decades kids managed mostly to not strangle each other with them.

sassytheFIRST Thu 14-Feb-13 19:14:59

Clip on ties are so that no one can do huge fat knots with a tiny front tail and acres of back tail posted through the shirt buttons. They are at our place , anyway.

desertgirl Thu 14-Feb-13 19:15:20

have come across mandatory clip on ties in adult uniforms as well, particularly where dealing with the public is required. Although the same point applies, why not just design a uniform without.....

exoticfruits Thu 14-Feb-13 19:17:07

They have always worn proper ties! Even 5 yr olds in some schools wear proper ties. If they are suddenly not safe the answer is to not have ties.

Dawndonna Thu 14-Feb-13 19:29:21

They were proper ties at both the schools attended by my dcs. Bloody daft!

Bluestocking Thu 14-Feb-13 23:05:07

The whole thing is ridiculous. Don't you wonder who put the child in question up to going to the papers, though?

cardibach Thu 14-Feb-13 23:14:02

I agree with sassy. Clip on ties (which look exactly like normal ones, so aren't 'awful' meditrina ) are about making everyine look the same - preventing pupils making themselves look ridiculous by making silly knots or having them at half mast. H and S is a red herring, really. This story boils down to 'Schoolboy taught in isolation for breaking the school rules', which isn;t quite so shocking, is it?
Having siad that, I'd be happy for uniform to be abolished completely (secondary teacher).

LineRunner Thu 14-Feb-13 23:16:53

My DS's school has clip-on ties.

It means the Year 11s can rip them off the Year 7s and throw them over the walls more easily.

LineRunner Thu 14-Feb-13 23:18:40

Why not clip-on bow ties?

Ruffles?

Floralnomad Thu 14-Feb-13 23:20:03

Ties can be a safety issue and believe me if you've had a secondary child physically bullied you would see the problem with proper ties . I speak from experience . Anyway TBH most clip on ones look ok and from a distance you can't tell .

Startail Thu 14-Feb-13 23:33:01

Always proper ties here, not that DD2 always ties hers properly.

Surely snatching off and hiding clip on ties opens up a whole new way of getting people in trouble.

If people took to pulling real ties I think a pair of scissors and some velcro might help.

I have threatened to tie DD2s neatly once, stitch the knot and insert a join under her collar.

flow4 Fri 15-Feb-13 00:04:32

My DS lost his clip-on tie months ago. He has been wearing his old proper tie since... No-one has noticed yet!

TraceyTrickster Fri 15-Feb-13 01:45:09

Here in Aus, kids manage to wear a school uniform easily without ties.
Polo shirts, shorts/skirts/skorts and summer/winter dresses.

Their uniforms are easily identifiable and no-one has ever worn a tie¬...radical hey?

Greenkit Fri 15-Feb-13 02:17:06

I suggested clip on ties to the head teacher of my childrens school (High school) as they currently have real ties and all wear them low in a big knott. I was told they couldnt have clip on as then the kids would hit each other over the heads with them and it would be a H&S issue.. hmm

sashh Fri 15-Feb-13 07:00:07

Teenagers need protecting from dangerous ties? Really ?

Never had a tie 'jacked'?

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