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Weed

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formallyknownasloveydarling Sun 10-Feb-13 15:45:26

AIBU to fucking hate the stuff?
I have seen young people change from ambitious, clever intelligent people to gormless idiots who don't give a shit about anything.
And I hate that my do smokes it hmm
I particularly despise this homegrown shite which seriously fucks you up.
Why oh why do people use it?
AIBU?
And AIBU to tell dp not to have anything to do with it any more or is that me being too bossy/controlling?
And breathe....

thebody Sun 10-Feb-13 15:47:32

I couldn't live with an addict. Tell him to grow up or get out.

YANBU.

But you will get a whole host of people who will claim it does no harm.

My ex was on it. Vile stuff. Ruined his life.

formallyknownasloveydarling Sun 10-Feb-13 15:49:12

He is by no means an addict. I think. I just don't get why people do it. Someone defend it, I want to understand.

yaimee Sun 10-Feb-13 15:49:53

Nope yanbu. I was talking to dp about this earlier on actually.
I'm not actually particularly anti drugs either, I just think weed turns people into boring, lazy, drooling idiots!
And it way not be physically addictive but i've seen good friends crawling up the wall for it before, especially now its laced with PCP or whatever other junk they're coating it with now!

Theicingontop Sun 10-Feb-13 15:51:45

It ruined my brother's life.

OP, what's he like when he hasn't had any?

GothJuice Sun 10-Feb-13 15:53:41

YANBU

I have worked with people who have developed drug induced psychosis from smoking skunk and I have some very close family members who's lives have been ruined by their daily use of weed.

formallyknownasloveydarling Sun 10-Feb-13 15:54:18

He is fine without it.
I am fairly open minded and can understand the pros and cons of most recreational drugs but weed, no. It is gross.

I think those that defend it really don't understand the sheer destructive nature of it on the sensitive human brain

EVERY time you have a joint a few brain cells are killed off, regular use can lead to huge changes in some people, some more obvious than others. Which is why it is seen as a soft "safe" drug.

But if you listen to neuro-psychologists and neurologists it is a very distructive drug long term and we are now seeing the results in a huge increase in MH problems in our young.

noddyholder Sun 10-Feb-13 15:54:53

If he isn't an addict what is the issue you have?

FreckledLeopard Sun 10-Feb-13 15:54:58

Well I suppose he uses it because he enjoys the feeling it gives him. I think that's the bottom line with a lot of drugs. Problem is that unless you can be very disciplined and only smoke it very occasionally, it's easy to to smoke it more and more and care less about everything else.

formallyknownasloveydarling Sun 10-Feb-13 16:00:05

Noddy I going to have a really good think and type a decent answer later.

Branleuse Sun 10-Feb-13 16:03:25

i love it. YABU

EllieArroway Sun 10-Feb-13 16:04:16

To those of you listing the damage it can do - are you aware of the far, far worse damage that alcohol can do?

I think weed should be legalised for the simple reason that it - while not 100% safe - is still considerably safer than alcohol.

My mother died an alcoholic at the age of 34. If she'd stuck to dope, she'd probably still be alive.

Bottom line - if you're bothered about the number of brain cells marijuana kills off and the way it impacts on behaviour & personality, why don't you have the same concerns about alcohol?

SofaKing Sun 10-Feb-13 16:12:21

Ok.
I think you have to define between a person who uses weed, and an addict. It is the same as the difference between a social drinker and an alcoholic. When you use a substance, any substance, to excess, when it interferes with your normal life and pursuits, or when it changes your personality, you have crossed the line into being an addict, and unfortunately the person affected is usually the last to know.

There is also virtually no support in this country for people in this situation; would you consider going to your GP if you suspected you were addicted to weed, or would you be so scared of losing your children, job and home for breaking the law that you wouldn't seek help? My uncle was a psychiatric nurse in Canada and it is much easier to seek help for addiction problems over there because cannabis is decriminalised for medical use and doesn't attract the huge social stigma it does here.

If you hate your partner's habit, I think you have to let him know. If he is using to excess and you find it interfering in your family life, I think you are within your rights to ask him to give it up, or limit use to times when he is not with you or your children. If he refuses, then point out that inability to manage without a substance is the definition of addictive behaviour, and he is therefore an addict. Use that statement to shock him into examining his own behaviour; I don't imagine you would have posted if him taking weed wasn't significantly altering his behaviour.

propertyNIGHTmareBEFOREXMAS Sun 10-Feb-13 16:13:56

Yanbu. I have seen several lads amount to nothing because because of it.

MajesticWhine Sun 10-Feb-13 16:18:00

YANBU - I wouldn't like to live with someone who used it regularly. Are you sure there's no dependency? How often does he use it? Does he use it in response to difficult life events? Is he more bad-tempered and irritable if he hasn't used it?

mercury7 Sun 10-Feb-13 16:21:06

I used to love mary janegrin
I smoked every day for over 7 years, gave it up one day about 7 years ago, and have lost the taste for intoxication.

Of course drug use can be problematic, but I dont think there is anything inherently wrong with wanting to get high

Saski Sun 10-Feb-13 16:22:35

I agree that there are social & habitual pot smokers, much like alcohol.

Pot addiction is no joke.

mercury7 Sun 10-Feb-13 16:23:03

if someone 'amounts to nothing' it seems unreasonable to blame just one aspect of their life!

Honestly you lot are hilarious. Its no worse than alcohol. I dislike drunk people and stoned people but this idea that weed is responsible for ruining peoples lived is quite frankly bullshit. People choose to stay home and smoke weed instead of going to work/ college/ whatever because they want to, because they like doing that more than working/ learning. I don't disagree that it is detrimental to some peoples health but only those who are predisposed to NH issues. Stop blaming the drug, its peoples own frailties that cause them to fuck up, not a bit of plant matter rolled up into a spliff.

riverboat Sun 10-Feb-13 16:34:52

I don't think weed is necessarily worse than alcohol per se. And I don't have a problem with people who want to use it. However, in my experience it's not much fun spending time with someone who is stoned, if you are not stoned yourself. It's actually pretty miserable. So for this reason, if my DP were doing it regularly I would definitely ask him to stop or cut way back for the sake of our relationship. YANBU.

aldiwhore Sun 10-Feb-13 16:35:12

YANBU to hate it. YABU in your general sweeping statements that may not represent the majority of either dope smokers or the quality of homegrown weed. Though I agree that some hybrid varieties are scary in their potency.

And what Ellie said!

StormyBrid Sun 10-Feb-13 16:37:08

I've seen young people turn into gormless idiots after prolonged smoking. I've seen young people continue to be intelligent, ambitious, motivated and successful while smoking. It's unreasonable to make such sweeping generalisations, when not everyone is affected in the same way.

I much prefer the "homegrown shite" to anything imported, because I know its production hasn't funded the international drug trade, and I know nothing's been added to it. Not convinced homegrown stuff fucks one up more than imported stuff; could you clarify what you mean by that?

Most of the people I know who use it find it helps them to relax, or it helps them to sleep. Person A, crippling arthritis, smokes a little at bedtime because otherwise the pain's so bad he can't sleep. Person B, suffers night terrors, wakes her partner up screaming sometimes. Smoke before bed and she sleeps fine.

You're not being unreasonable to want a partner who doesn't smoke weed, though. It's entirely your decision. Just bear in mind that you can only change whether he's your partner, not whether he chooses to smoke. Telling him he can't smoke it any more is indeed bossy and controlling, and he'd be well within his rights to tell you to sod off. Having a conversation in which you make it clear that you don't like him smoking and see if he's willing to stop would be a much better idea.

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