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Would you leave a bar without paying for food?

(70 Posts)
carlywurly Sat 26-Jan-13 17:37:49

If a bill hasn't been given to you?

A couple of friends did last night in a small, local tapas type of place, and seemed to think this was fine. It's been bothering me all day, to the extent that I might go back and settle it myself. (It was probably under £10)

Dp and i had a separate tab which I made sure was cleared before we left, but they were of the opinion that if the bar weren't going to ask them for money for the food they'd had, they weren't going to offer it.

What would you do?.. They are generally lovely people but this just smacks of wrong to me.

lizzypuffs Sat 26-Jan-13 18:11:02

Thats awful. Its not big and its not funny as my sister might say. No ydnbu.

Tee2072 Sat 26-Jan-13 18:12:04

I have been tempted when I can't seem to get a waiter to take my money but I have never actually done it.

We did it once when a very drunk friend needed to be poured into a cab and everyone thought someone else had paid. We went back to offer to pay the next day but they had cashed up and said no. They got VERY well tipped every time we went there after that.

I wouldnt do it,. it is theft! However i do get annoyed when you ask for the bill, they bring it over and then they leave you for half an hour. my blood pressure goes through the roof.

i like those places where you pay first. <heathen> wink

Lastofthepodpeople Sat 26-Jan-13 18:19:40

Horrible thing to do. As others have said, the servers sometimes are made to pay (no idea if its legal here). Once when I was waitressing at 16, had to pay the bill for a couple who walked out. They'd drank a fortune in wine and I ended up having to work about a week for 'free' to cover it.

Lastofthepodpeople Sat 26-Jan-13 18:21:05

That was years ago in South Africa, probably not legal in the UK but its still taking something you haven't paid for.

Why did they do this?? shock

That is dishonest, and embarrassing. I would not go out with them again. If they ask you out, I would be honest and say no because it is embarrassing to be out for a meal with people who dont settle their bill, and you dont want their behaviour reflect badly on you.

HecateWhoopass Sat 26-Jan-13 18:27:17

That's shit of them.

Did they not say "can I have the bill please?"

That's normally what you do when you've finished.

How does the place know you're finished and leaving if you don't ask for the bill hmm

I think they're thieves.

FoxtrotFoxtrotSierra Sat 26-Jan-13 18:29:08

As everyone else says - it's theft! Someone else is paying for their meal, it could be the serving staff or it could be the owner of the restaurant. When I was a waitress our tips would be confiscated if we had people take off without paying - so other diners paid for people's meals instead of rewarding the staff.

Why are people so dishonest these days? It feels like nobody has morals anymore.

quoteunquote Sat 26-Jan-13 18:30:22

What is wrong with people,

nasty gits.

please do go any pay so you don't get tarred with the same brush,and some poor sod doesn't get their wages docked or get sacked, and find better friends.

TeamEdward Sat 26-Jan-13 18:45:36

I had a friend who worked in Pizza Express and was made to pay for "runners" out of his wages. No idea if this is a franchise-wide thing, or just a particularly nasty manager.

sundaesundae Sat 26-Jan-13 19:23:32

I used to work in a very busy hotel lounge on the M40, constantly used for business meetings. We would have at least one walk out a day and these people were usually on expenses!

I think leaving without paying for no reason is just plain wrong.

specialsubject Sat 26-Jan-13 19:26:45

right up there with the FB post I've just read about theft from a charity shop. Tell your friends to go back and pay. They are not 'lovely people'.

BumpingFuglies Sat 26-Jan-13 20:37:15

Good God no. That's thieving.

carlywurly Sat 26-Jan-13 20:38:42

Thanks all, and no we won't be going out with them again. We have plenty of other friends who wouldn't dream of behaving like this. Dp has just told me he overheard them putting drinks on there as well. angry It did and does make me cringe - I'm the type who puts coins in a charity box if I find them in the street. I've never nicked anything in my life.

Dp also got in 2 rounds of drinks which weren't reciprocated even though they got themselves some (clearly now we know how, we wouldn't have wanted them!) so they'd marked themselves out as round dodgers even before the great escape at the end of the night.

toomuch2young Sat 26-Jan-13 20:39:08

That's really sad.
Can't imagine anyone decent even thinking of doing that or that it could possibly be ok!

bumperella Sat 26-Jan-13 20:39:56

Agree: it's theft.
To do it by mistake is an embassassing accident, to say "I'm not prepared to pay for this food as it's inedibly bad so we've not eaten it" is OK, but to walk out without paying becuase you think you'll get away with it is just stealing.

mamalovesmojitos Sat 26-Jan-13 20:40:10

Never! And I wouldn't socialise with people who did.

manicinsomniac Sat 26-Jan-13 20:45:08

not intentionally, no. I've done it by accident three times - once I realised almost as soon as I'd left and went back, once I realised later that evening and went back the next day but the third time I realised that night but was 200 miles away by then so never went back. I do feel bad though.

MrsHoarder Sat 26-Jan-13 20:48:43

No! I've been tempted in pizza express when we'd been waiting for over an hour and asked for the bill multiple times (the conversation was actually "if we start putting our coats on do you think they'll let us pay"). But its stealing.

carlywurly Sat 26-Jan-13 20:52:15

We've had that in pizza express! I use the app now and pay by PayPal, otherwise they always keep you waiting ages to pay.

ZillionChocolate Sat 26-Jan-13 20:52:49

Scumbags.

SomethingProfound Sat 26-Jan-13 21:33:16

The staff will probably of had to make it up.

I have worked in bars and restaurants for years and its common practice to make staff pay for walk outs.

Poor server, but also keep in mind they probably wont be forgotten, any walkouts I had when I was a manager I would get a picture off CCTV for the staff to see and they would be refused service if they tried to return in the future.

StickEmUp Sat 26-Jan-13 21:36:26

scumbags

^ this.

God, that would really, really, really bother me yes! How awful.

DP and I once left a small cafe in Chichester and were walking up the street when we heard someone calling, and this poor woman from the cafe was chasing us.... because we'd forgotten to pay!
I've never been more mortified in my entire life! I'm so used to paying for things and then sitting down and eating it that I just hadn't even thought about it when we got up and left.
I can't even comprehend not paying on purpose!

Did your friends even ask for a bill? if not then how were the staff supposed to know they were ready for it???

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