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to stop playing the National Lottery after the ticket price rises?

(62 Posts)
Tw1nkle Mon 21-Jan-13 15:27:12

I struggle to justify the £18 a month I pay now(2 lines, sat & wed).......so no way will I be able to afford the £36 a month it will go up to in the Autumn!

I think I'm going to stop playing altogether! I know my numbers though - so I'll never be able to watch again!!!

I also never seem to see any of the 'good causes' that they talk about......

andubelievedthat Fri 22-Feb-13 19:17:54

Oh dear ,and there is the mindset " someone has to win" that so? well what the heck is a rollover ?who won that week ? and in analysis the RB gig would not have raised more money for charity , RB seems like a terribly nice chap but 1st and foremost he is a very astute businessman.the lottery "dream " is just that(imo)

terrierist Fri 22-Feb-13 12:52:17

Choccy - it's 6 months for claiming

Trills Fri 22-Feb-13 11:11:29

It s not unreasonable to play the lottery or to not play the lottery.

HTH smile

Borntobeamum Fri 22-Feb-13 11:07:42

They are still making a lot for charity at £1 a line.
They must be!

tensmums Fri 22-Feb-13 10:51:19

Having done 3 lines on both the wed & sat draws from week one in 1994 I definitely wont be doubling my stake. If the increase goes ahead I will do the irish lottery instead. Also you can sign a couple of online petitions against the increase if you just google petitions against the lottery increase. ;-)

starmaker7 Wed 23-Jan-13 12:52:53

how else are they going to pay for the £25 for 3 numbers instead of £10 like it is now ,dont see the problem myself unless you dont win very often ;0)

nikcname Tue 22-Jan-13 22:52:28

When I remember I do a lucky dip, maybe 2 sometimes, probably spend £3 a month, sometimes!

So many lotteries, don't really get it,think it might be everyday? £1.50 for a Euro millions (I think) so don't buy, £2 lottery never happening!

I guess the diehards wont give up but casuals will balk at the price.

meddie Tue 22-Jan-13 22:34:03

of winning

meddie Tue 22-Jan-13 22:33:24

MITTENS The issue regarding it being a 'tax' is because, there is a larger amount of low income/unemployed people who play it and it constitutes a greater percentage of their income than it does for more affluent people.
Also research into where funding was going found insufficient amounts were being directed to deprived communities even though these areas often had higher rates of play.
So essentially a tax on the poor to fund more middle class pursuits (The Arts,sports.Opera, Heritage. The Olympics etc.
It plays on the desperation of low income earners and offers a glimmer of a hope to escape a life of drudgery, the very people who can ill afford to lose that money each month on a very tiny chance.

KoalaTale Tue 22-Jan-13 22:28:27

Yanbu. I do it occasionally, only ever £1. I won't bother anymore if it will be £2, I'm happy to throw a pound away but not two for some reason confused

tittytittyhanghang Tue 22-Jan-13 22:21:02

YANBU, you spend exactly the same as me, and i was thinking that my dd will double to £36! Spending £18 a month on the lottery seems ok to me, its only £4 a week but for whatever reason £36 seems to be over the line that I think is too much to spend on lottery (this is not financial, I could afford this, but it just doesn't sit right having a dd for £36 for something that is essentially gambling). So ive decided that im going to cancel my dd and look at buying an interest free sofa with the money instead

I heard one Radio DJ (can't remember what station) saying it's an "Idiots Tax"

grin That's me. Idiot.

marquesas Tue 22-Jan-13 22:04:55

girloutnumbered - you do know that there doesn't have to be a winner each time don't you? It's not just a case of sticking it out until everyone else gives up.

DontmindifIdo Tue 22-Jan-13 21:51:13

erm, rather than stopping playing all together, why don't you just drop to 1 line from 2 so therefore spending exactly the same? You only need one line anyway, the point is to buy the dream once or twice a week that you can play property porn, think about what which designer bags you'd buy, where you'd go on holiday, what car you'd drive etc. It's not about htinking you are actually going to win, it's about buying a little bit of a dream.

You could take it down to just buying your dream once a week, £2.

I don't understand why you need that many tickets...

choccyp1g Portugal Tue 22-Jan-13 21:43:06

Also I'll take solesource's advice, and write my name on it straightaway, just in case it turns out to be a winner, and the people on the till try the ticket-swapping trick.

choccyp1g Portugal Tue 22-Jan-13 21:40:05

I generally get a ticket about once every 6 weeks or so, and get it checked a week or two later, whenever I think of it. My new plan is to get a ticket once every 6 months*, but not get it checked until I buy a replacement.

That way I'll feel as though I'm "in it", because at all times I'll have a possible winner in my pocket, but won't waste much money on something that is not going to happen.

* Does anyone know how long you get to claim before they keep the money? I'll aim for a bit less than that, just to be on the safe side.

DorisIsWaiting Tue 22-Jan-13 21:38:23

Re the good causes, It is incredibly hard to get money. A colleague and I applyied on behalf of alocal project there is an intial 10 page application which is reviewed and then if you are sucessfull a more indepth application is required (I think 20-30% of applications who reach the 2nd stage get funding iirc) We got knocked back at the first stage trying to build a route to safely connect our village and the adjcent one (A road no footpath/ cycle track).

There is a huge demand for funding and this will only increase as other sources of funding are cut for community projects.

However I do agree those most likely to play are those who can least afford it (we have a lucky dip when we like the look of the jackpot <shrug> and the same for the euromillions ) I wonder if sales (and jackpots) have fallen with the increase in price and availablity of the Euromillions and the hundreds of scratchcards available?

GirlOutNumbered Tue 22-Jan-13 21:07:38

We spend about £20 a month, so now will just get rid of the Wednesday draw. I waste more money on take out coffee and papers than I do on the lottery and at the end of the day, SOMEONE has to win!

ThePinkOcelot Tue 22-Jan-13 19:42:54

I think a lot of people will stop doing it. I certainly would if I did it in the first place. Someone spending £5 isn't going to start paying £10 a week, I would have thought!

toddlerama Tue 22-Jan-13 19:37:01

I'm agog that anyone spends £24 per month on lottery tickets! Absolutely gobsmacked. I thought only pensioners did it out of boredom. And I guess if there was a syndicate at work I'd do it. Would be shit if everyone else got to retire early except me. Complaining about the price hike as if it will affect you is bizarre. Just buy half as many? By a quarter of what you were and pretend it's gone down. It wont make any difference!

WMittens Tue 22-Jan-13 19:26:12

taxes can be voluntary like road tax, you do not have to have a car

That doesn't work as a simile: the direct comparison would be, "the price of the car is a tax, you don't have pay it if you don't buy the car."

VAT is only payable on something if you buy it, if you don't buy you don't pay; a bit like a lottery ticket

If you don't buy a VATable product or service, then you are not subject to the tax - that is not the same as it not being mandatory. If you do purchase it, the tax is mandatory. Shit example anyway, who isn't going to buy clothes, or fuel for heating?

So once again, a lottery ticket is not a tax; the tax portion of a lottery ticket is a tax.

Not all "taxes" are levied by a central or local government.

"A tax (from the Latin taxo; "I estimate") is a financial charge or other levy imposed upon a taxpayer (an individual or legal entity) by a state or the functional equivalent of a state such that failure to pay is punishable by law."

If it were up to me, it would be mandatory to study English in schools.

CrispyHedgeHogmanay Tue 22-Jan-13 15:54:49

I haven't done it for years.. there was a time when I didn't buy a ticket and my numbers came up that week.. so I figure I've had my luck and missed it. The chances of that happening ever again are so slim I've never bothered since sad

pluCaChange Tue 22-Jan-13 15:49:07

Not all "taxes" are levied by a central or local government. As sarahtigh and cumfy have indicated, it's being used in a metaphorical sense here.

sarahtigh Tue 22-Jan-13 15:28:17

taxes can be voluntary like road tax, you do not have to have a car

VAT is only payable on something if you buy it, if you don't buy you don't pay; a bit like a lottery ticket

but as so much goes to the government some of it is like a tax, sales tax

it is like a kind of tax, it has also been called a tax on the poor

cumfy Tue 22-Jan-13 15:23:30

VAT is a tax. It can be avoided by not purchasing the good so taxed.

Similarly one can avoid the tax component (ie the good causes) of the lottery by not purchasing it.

No-one is claiming the lottery is an official tax.

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