the nurse who took the hoax call has killed herself(63 Posts)
not aibu but
the poor woman
and the hoaxers must be feeling terrible
That is true NJE - she might have died of 'natural causes' I guess - heart attack or some such. However, they haven't updated, so I would assume she did take her own life
yeah i know, just wish there weren't such awful people out there to make a quick buck at someone else's expense
That's ... just devastatingly awful, whistling. How can these people continue to be employed? How can their families and friends be comfortable about being part of their lives?
Nevertheless, girl, although I agree with you that ideally these lowlifes should not be operating, the fact is, somewhere in the world, they always will be.
The royals know that, which is why they have their own protection in place. The nurse, a normal, decent person with a vital role to play in society, did not know this. And no-one was there to protect HER.
I feel very angry on her behalf. There's no point wishing low-media scum doesn't exist - it does. But the hospital management had a duty to protect staff and patients against this, being the long standing royal/sleb providers they are.
But no - one poor nurse felt all the agony and now the management are writing to the aussie radio station to complain - what's the bloody point of that? They should be writing to themselves to see where their duty of care to their staff went so disastrously wrong.
I posted this on another thread, the station has been taken off air several times, not these djs but the ones they were covering for.
in August 2009, Kyle Sandilands, a shock jock on 2Day FM, sparked a huge public backlash following a lie-detector stunt in which a 14-year-old girl revealed she had been raped.
Sandilands was subsequently dropped as a judge on Australian Idol and criticised by the then prime minister, Kevin Rudd, for his role in the episode.
The DJ also provoked fury in November last year, after he launched a verbal attack on a female journalist, Alison Stephenson, who had reported on the low ratings of a TV show he and O'Neil presented.
"Some fat slag on news.com.au has already branded it a disaster," he said. "You can tell by reading the article that she just hates us and has always hated us. What a fat, bitter thing you are. You're deputy editor of an online thing. You've got a nothing job anyway. You're a piece of shit. This low thing, Alison Stephenson, deputy editor of news.com.au online. You're supposed to be impartial, you little troll."
He added: "You're a bullshit artist, girl. You should be fired from your job. Your hair's very '90s. And your blouse. You haven't got that much titty to be having that low cut a blouse. Watch your mouth or I'll hunt you down."
His remarks led sponsors including the car company Holden to withdraw their sponsorship of the show.
In April this year, Sandilands was also criticised for referring to a Pakistani girl born with additional limbs as "spider baby" and implying her disability would give her an advantage in the Olympic games.
You are right girl, but sadly there are a lot of people like these idiots. The hospital can't just rely on no one being stupid enough to do this type of thing- the possibility of it happening is sadly very real.
Is that true these DJs have form for these "pranks" and tricked a 14yr old into revealing she was raped?!
I'm sorry, all blame lies with those arseholes who clearly don't think through their irresponsible actions.
Yes the hospital could have had protocols in place, but they wouldn't bloody need to if pricks like this weren't out for their 15mins of fame without thinking about the repercussions on the normal people they get unwillingly involved.
I totally agree with maddening.
It's a sad fact that people play these type of pranks- the hospital should have robust procedures in place to deal with this type of thing, not leaving it to this busy nurse.
The hospital management clearly pride themselves on handling the treatment of high profile patients. This brings with it the risk of people attempting to glean information about such patients- they failed to protect their staff from these people.
FGS we've seen the press unashamedly access high profile people's mobile phones- surely making these types of hideous calls is the type if thing they could easily stoop to. The hospital should have been better prepared.......
I was thinking same Jensei
Is anyone else wondering how the other poor nurse is coping with all of this? I hope that she is getting the support that she needs.
My mum is a nurse who has dealt with a similar situation with the press and an incident.
She is pretty damn sure the hospital would not have given their backing no matter what they say. It was an embarrassment to the hospital and they would have wanted a scape goat for that embarrassment.
She also said the nursing council hang you out to bloody dry, she would have been terrified that she would not only lose her job but be struck off.
Why hadn't the hospital made moves to protect the nurses from the press ? What exactly did the hospital do to support her and what was their true treatment of her? As her employers they had a duty of care surely?
Yes, Monty I agree, I really do question why there is not much press attention on the failure of the hospital management.
This is where the buck stops IMO. The aussie journos are dimwit prats, no doubt, but there are plenty of those in the world - if you were a hospital with the highest profile patients but leave your phone line unmanned so a busy medical nurse has to pick it up in amongst her real duties - what kind of management does that hospital have?
Where were the protocols and procedures that should protect staff and patients? I find the hospital management very culpable here. I also wonder how much harranguing (sp?) Jacintha may have received unofficially even if she wasn't disciplined. Sounds like she was the bread winner too
I keep imagining how awful she must have felt. You answer the phone everyday to calls regarding patients and are very conscious of trying to make sure they are entitled to be given info. It could happen to any of us (except I've never actually looked after anyone of media interest). The poor woman just put the call through, but I'm sure that however supportive the hospital say they were there will have been someone trying to wind her up, there's always someone happy to kick you when your down.
Such a tragedy for her family.
Tragic news. Some "pranks" go too far, and as some have correctly pointed out, contacting a hospital to get information about a patient using fake information is simply wrong. The fact that the patient and her condition is so high profile makes it worse (don't forget, regardless of anyones stance on the monarchy, we are talking about the future king and his wife, and another future king/queen...this is a pregnancy that the world will be following daily)
My heart goes out to the nurse and her family.
I hope the 2 DJs and their producers are all sacked. After all, what happened here with Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand...it's the least that should happen to them.
Also found it interesting that the BBC says that the nurse was lonely and confused. Doesn't sound like she was given much help or support after the incident from higher up. We need proper protection for our nurses. They do an amazing and often thankless job.
If nothing else, I hope some lessons have been learnt. Just wish they didn't have to be learnt in such tragic circumstances.
....and breath, rant over, sorry!
Hate prank calls, but these two tossers took it to a whole new level by actively deceiving someone into relaying confidential patient information. If some one did that to take the piss out of one of your ill family members you would be pretty pissed off.
female nurses have a 4 times greater suicide incidence than the average woman in the uk. we go to work every day worrying if we will have enough time to do all we need to to keep are patients safe and well, we do endless hours of unpaid overtime (because we are stupid) because if we don't the work doesn't get done and someone could be harmed.
On top of all that shit two australian twats thinks its ok to humiliate and ridicule you internationally regarding a call you answered at 5:30 in the morning when you were probably too tired to even think straight.
I doubt she had underlying mental health issues other than being on the edge the same way every other nurse with a conscience in the uk is every day. She must have been worried about professional review, the possibility of losing her job, the fear she might lose her registration.
Some arse said we shouldn't get angry with the DJs or maybe they would do the same, boo hoo, they were looking for publicity, she wasn't. Long may they enjoy there 15 minutes of fame, twats.
I think people completely laying into the radio presenters here is also wrong.
What has happened is a complete and utter tragedy, for the deceased, her family, the royals, and the radio presenters will all never forget this for the rest of their lives.
The joke of the prank callers (and that humour is not to my taste, but some people must like it as it happens a lot and there is a whole tv show based around prank calls) is that their accents were soooo bad they would never have expected to be put through. If the radio presenters were hung up on, which should have happened, no one in the UK would know who these Australian radio presenters were.
Whether the call should have been aired after they were put through is another matter and the radio station themselves made a bad call on that, a bit like the Sachs case over here, but ITV have still picked up Jonathon Ross and I bet a lot of Mumsnetters still watch his programme now he is on ITV.
A terrible consequence has come out of a bad judgement call, but we are all guilty of those many times in our lives. I feel uncomfortable with how people are laying into these radio presenters, they would never have wanted Jacintha dead and bet if they could they would turn back time.
I saw this earlier in the news and it has really upset me. She must have felt so desperate - and as others have said, she was probably at a vulnerable point in her life anyway, and this was just the last straw.
I actually feel a bit sorry form the DJs too - because, even though they should have thought about this, I am sure they never anticipated how things would end.... And actually, the stuff that was disclosed about Kate was pretty harmless anyway. If it was anyone other than "royalty" there would not have been such a fuss. There is nothing special about Kate - she is just a young woman like all of us.
It's nothing to do with sacred royalty, as much as that evidently bothers you, but rather it is about the behaviour of the media, towards someone who was not royal. If they had got through to William on the phone, fair enough, prick his bubble if that's what you want, but they targeted medical staff who neither seek nor deserve this kind of attention.
It's not a royal story, it's a 'shock jock gone too far' story.
There is an extent to every joke/prank. As far as I'm concerned, once a joke enters the realms of breaking the law it's not a joke anymore. These idiots broke the law by assuming another persons identity to divulge information. That's not a joke.
This poor woman was obviously affected by this stupid stunt and now her family are paying for it. I hope the presenters are happy now they have blood on their hands.
I am not the slightest bit bothered that it was to do with the Royals, I am staunchly republican. Its the fact that in the name of entertainment, these people didnt think about how they would make their victims feel.
And because of that, a woman, who yes it must be admitted was probably already troubled, took her life.
The DJ's who did this are responsible for that poor womans death.
pretending to be someone's relative to get personal information about their condition from a hospital is a disgusting thing to do. it isn't funny at all, whether the patient is royal or just your next door neighbour whom you suspect of having haemorrhoids.
it shouldn't have happened. the receptionist nurse and information passing nurse had every right to expect a caller to be genuine, and not to expect to be lied to. decent people would expect honesty in that situation, from other decent people. and the great strength of what used to be great britain is that we are (used to be) decent people.
anyone can make a mistake at work. most of us are not mocked on a global scale for making our mistakes. we don't hear them on national and international radio ( i first heard this on the world service).
culturally australia might be different from the uk, but that isn't really an excuse. it was underhand, shameful behaviour and it led to an innocent woman taking her life. God rest her soul and grant her peace. prayers for her family.
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