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...to kick up a fuss because DS (7) was confronted with (soft) porn on school's iPad?

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allrightluv Wed 05-Dec-12 19:13:26

DS is 7. He and a friend were using the school's new iPads in class. His friend googled some explicit words and, hey presto, they stumbled across some soft porn... Luckily only breasts, butts but no genitalia. But still: This should't happen at school!!! Can't decide how enraged I should be about this...

BendyBobsBrusselsSprouts Wed 05-Dec-12 20:15:28

I was posting something the other day and couldn't remember the correct spelling for bizarre and bazaar. I can never remember which one is right.

Anyway all I can say is don't google bizarre bazaar like I didshock because there is it seems a site that covers porn based bizarreness.

noblegiraffe Wed 05-Dec-12 20:23:19

teaguzzler at secondary, the filters are not usually to stop kids accidentally seeing inappropriate content that they would be uncomfortable with, but to stop them searching it out!

I spent most of my IT lessons at school unblocking blocked websites. its impossible to block websites, there is always a website via Google that can unblock them.

Startail Wed 05-Dec-12 20:37:34

If a teacher wants to play a Utube video, they ask the pupils.

Far quicker than using the official route past the safe guarding programes.

showmethetoys Wed 05-Dec-12 20:39:18

Last year my year 4 class were finishing off some work, and one of them asked for a picture of a Celt to copy. I briefly paused before searching, but then decided that the word 'Celt' couldnt possibly bring up anything rude - at least not on the first page in a school with the filters etc. So I made the rookie mistake of google imaging the word with the interactive whiteboard on.

The third picture to come up was a topless woman.

I was mortified and was really worried that the kids would go home and tell their parents I was showing them topless photos, but nothing came of it! But it goes to show that stuff will get through the filter, so it is no surprise that when the boys googled 'nude' or 'naked' they were met with some, well, naked pictures!

To be honest I would be more 'enraged' with your child for taking part in the rude googling.

StuntGirl Wed 05-Dec-12 20:46:11

While I think the school needs to check their security settings I think you need to stop trying to shift the blame entirely on the school.

Your son did this. He 'tagged along" with his friend. He did not try to stop his friend. He even 'nonchalantly' told you about it later. And you neither reprimanded him nor explained why it was wrong? Have a word with yourself.

You should try being enraged with your son as much as the school. He will not learn appropriate boundaries and behaviour unless you teach him.

3b1g Wed 05-Dec-12 20:49:49

showmethetoys: google images can be a minefield, even with 'innocent' words. I have learned from experience that including the word 'homework' tends to filter out the worst offenders!

teaguzzler Wed 05-Dec-12 21:13:14

Ah yes of course noble. Can you tell i'm a ks1 teacher!

3b1g Wed 05-Dec-12 21:26:22

Or alternatively see if Woodlands Junior School has already prepared something! They are great for homework research and it's all pre-filtered. smile

Feenie Wed 05-Dec-12 21:31:08

My Y5s googled 'nice biscuits' and found some pictures of ladies showing their..er..nice biscuits. Was confused describing that one down the phone to our network.

3b1g Wed 05-Dec-12 21:36:24

DH used to be a Beaver leader. Our local Beavers colony was doing a joint activity with a colony in Bushey and DH needed to find out the contact details. I think you can see where this is going.

ghoulelocks Wed 05-Dec-12 21:38:13

Nearly exactly the same thing happened in our school, and we were glad to be told by a parent. We discovered that the internet filter was faulty on certain machines after changing providers, also we changed how we taught internet safety as we were horrified 6 children were aware and none reported it until it came back to us days later through a sibling then Dad.

I wouldn't be enraged but I would praise your son for telling you about it and stress to school it was the right thing to do, as if he then actually sees something far worse online in the future that frightens him or he can't deal with he will know he can tell you and you will help him, rather than freak out.

EndoplasmicReticulum Wed 05-Dec-12 21:38:37

I nearly googled "blue tit" in class once to find a picture, we were doing food chains and a student didn't know that it was a bird.

Stopped myself just in time.

Feenie Wed 05-Dec-12 21:39:56

Ha, yes, I can, 3b1g!

Two of my Y5 girls wanted to find a beaver sound effect for their river presentation.

They were not granted permission to google that one.

EndoplasmicReticulum Wed 05-Dec-12 21:42:29

Actually, just tried that now and I did just get birds. So would have been OK! My school filter does sometimes make Biology lessons a bit difficult, anyway.

Bogeyface Wed 05-Dec-12 21:51:26

Oh and "his friend" hmm Really?

My son swore blind it was his friend that had googled inappropriate things when in year 7, but they both got their internet access revoked, which they only do if they can prove who it was. Stupid sod forgot that they can tell who is logged on and what they are accessing. He had tried to say that his mate had logged under his name, until they showed him proof that they had both been logged in on adjacent computers at exactly the same time!

So before you steam in all guns blazing, you need to be 100% that other child isnt saying it was your son. In all probability, it was both of them saying "lets look for......"

You seem to be determined that it is the other child or the schools fault, anyones fault but your son's and by extension yours for not teaching him about what is ok and what isnt on the internet.

LynetteScavo Wed 05-Dec-12 22:11:58

It doesn't matter if it was the OP's DS, his friends, or some random 7yo. The fact is 7yo's are little and silly, and will do silly things such as Google things they think are rude, sometimes with not good consequences which they wouldn't have foreseen, because they are silly and little.

You wouldn't expect someone in loco parentis let them roam around a busy junction, and then, when they are knocked over by a car say "Well, they should know better than to run across the road." (Or maybe some posters who have commented on this thread would!) Which is why schools have filters in place, and while kicking up a fuss won't achieve much, quietly mentioning it will alert the school to what has happened.

But lots of things will get through filters, "Prince Albert" being a classic.

BoneyBackJefferson Wed 05-Dec-12 22:12:24

In the last couple of years I have had blocked 30 - 40 websites, (mostly games), then the pupils discovered proxy servers.

The battle is ongoing but TBH I would prefer to spend my time teaching than blocking websites that the children will find a way on to if they want to.

LynetteScavo Wed 05-Dec-12 22:13:00

There's a big difference between a 7yo and a Y7 DS.

Bogeyface Wed 05-Dec-12 22:23:52

There's a big difference between a 7yo and a Y7 DS

Not when it comes to trying to get out of trouble there isnt!

"X did it" is the default position for every child in the world, and quite alot of adults too!

3b1g Wed 05-Dec-12 22:24:57

Also both filled with natural curiosity...

ChippingInAWinterWonderland Wed 05-Dec-12 22:25:35

Some of these are really funny - Beavers - Bushy, Dog-Sex.

I can't believe that some of you are 'disgusted' 'outraged' and think the kids need a good telling off. Don't you remember being kids?? OK - so all we had was a dictionary and possibly a friends, older brothers playboy.... but jesus wept, the world wont end if a couple of kids google 'nude' and 'bums'. Get A Grip.

ChippingInAWinterWonderland Wed 05-Dec-12 22:26:26

Lynette - Naked Granny... poor kid grin

phantomnamechanger Wed 05-Dec-12 22:39:44

our school filters must be pretty good - because a child could not search for their own address as it was cock lane, and the teacher could not find the words of the owl and the pussy cat either

dare not ask about prince albert

HenriettaTurkey Wed 05-Dec-12 22:43:38

My DH googled images for the Vernacular Architecture Group using just their initials.

It got very biological very quickly.

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