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to think WTAF at the Amy Winehouse statue?

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BattlingFanjos Fri 23-Nov-12 23:21:45

Apparently this is old news but I've only just seen it so apologies!

According to her dad Mitch, it is going to be unveiled at a "Live Aid type concert where we get maybe four, five, six hours" in Sept 2014. It doesn't say anything about money for charity or anything just that it will be a tribute to Amy at the Roundhouse in Camden.

AIBU to think that she could sing, had a good voice, sold many records and made a fair bit of money not my taste but she was obviously talented but that doing things like this are taking away from what she did in her personal life? If she was such an inspirational public figure why was it allowed to be so public that she abused drugs, alcohol and her whole body/mind?! They are sugar coating the dark side of her life! It was not fucking cool! It was sad and inevitable!!! I think her death was so sad and I have every sympathy for her poor, poor family. But come on! A fucking statue?! WHY?!

Please, someone tell me what I am missing!!

CarrotCruncher Sat 24-Nov-12 01:58:15

She died of alchohol poisoning and had been off drugs for a couple of months she was trying to quit.A true legend imo with a fantastic voice/talent who is sadly missed and i think a statue is very fitting and correct RIP AMY

CarrotCruncher Sat 24-Nov-12 01:59:11

sad

Monty27 Sat 24-Nov-12 02:07:16

Battling have you had a sheltered life free of any addictions/afflictions/pain/depths beyond what is acceptable to God knows who. You? It would seem not. Long may it last. angry

Oh don't start me.

Carrot sad Me too. What a beautiful talented woman and yes it was a tragic loss of life.

OutragedFromLeeds Sat 24-Nov-12 02:09:06

YANBU (unless the statue is going in her parents garden or something).

A true legend? Really?

ClippedPhoenix Sat 24-Nov-12 02:22:55

So she died through drink and drugs and theres a statue of her being unveiled? that is rather off to he honest.

But in saying that i would probably take my teen DS there to point out that she died at a very young age because of it and it's not the way to go.

I wouldn't take him there with the heroin thing in mind.

Monty27 Sat 24-Nov-12 02:25:17

There's statues of warlords the world over.

The point is?

ClippedPhoenix Sat 24-Nov-12 02:27:37

she doesnt deserve a bloody statue thats four sure. She made a few albums and she was very talented but she went and fucked up to the point she died.. Hero's that save people and die to give life to others deserve that, not her.

ihavenonameonhere Sat 24-Nov-12 02:28:46

I loved Amy Winehouse but I think there is better use of money than a statue of her

MrsGrieves Sat 24-Nov-12 02:32:11

Meh I'm sure many public figures who have statues in their honour led less than blameless lives.

Her personal life was just that, obviously it led to tragedy, but so could many others, they just got lucky.

Wasn't Churchill a bit of a pisshead?

ClippedPhoenix Sat 24-Nov-12 02:33:20

The point is Monty that we don't need to repeat errors do we.

A statue is a figure of worship and no we dont want to worship poor amys calamity of a life and what that stands for.

MrsGrieves Sat 24-Nov-12 02:33:27

ClippedPhoenix you seem like such a lovely person smile.

Monty27 Sat 24-Nov-12 02:34:07

Yep warlords have statues everywhere, as do artists, whether liked or not.

see elvis stuff for example

ClippedPhoenix Sat 24-Nov-12 02:35:39

I have my faults MrsGrieves grin

Monty27 Sat 24-Nov-12 02:40:38

Clipped you do seem lovely and I do get what you're saying, but it's for her achievements not her shortcomings. I suppose as a fan of her music (not all of it, and certainly not her habits) I can respect her.

I suppose worship is a bit strong. More in memory of her achievements.

piprabbit Sat 24-Nov-12 02:46:13

Noor Inayat Khan is an inspirational figure and the statue of her, which was only unveiled a couple of weeks ago, is the first to honour an Asian woman in Britain. It is fitting that Noor be honoured in this way. Amy, I'm not so sure about.

ClippedPhoenix Sat 24-Nov-12 02:47:41

Thanks monty but i dont really see how she should have a statue, she made a few very brilliant records and had a very young and painful death due to addiction. It's not exactly something that should be carved in our history

Monty27 Sat 24-Nov-12 02:58:41

Clipped, I live in London, don't know if you do but there's blue plaques, statues etc everywhere, I'm always a bit ermmmm, who where they etc, if it happens it happens. I do get what you're saying but Camden was her 'manor' so to speak and if it's up there, people will go to see it, if they don't, or people see it and don't know who she was does it matter?

It's just a momentum to her life. tragic as it was

IAmSoFuckingRock Sat 24-Nov-12 03:08:01

" If she was such an inspirational public figure why was it allowed to be so public that she abused drugs, alcohol and her whole body/mind?! "

as a reminder, a lesson even?

she was a human being with family and friends who loved her. she had an amazing talent but guess what, she was also human and made decisions that resulted in a horrible life for her and her loved ones. that doesn't mean she doesn't deserve to be remembered by those that choose to. are you being asked to fund the statue? i dont think so (but am happy to be corrected if this is coming out of taxpayers' money). i have family buried in graveyards with beautiful headstones that cost alot of money. they weren't superhuman infallible beings. they all made bad decisions at one point or another but we dont scrawl those things over their headstones. we accept that as humans we all make mistakes and that it doesn't make the good things we do worthless.

some people are choosing to erect a statue to remember a person that was important to them. that is all. if you dont want to be involved then dont.

ClippedPhoenix Sat 24-Nov-12 03:10:35

Now you've brougt a tear to my eye. Yes I do live in London and i guess she was an icon sort of ish in Camden and that is a whacky place grin so if her dad wants to pay for a statue who's to say he cant. We as parents can always point her out and say how tragic her life was and why i guess.

Monty27 Sat 24-Nov-12 03:14:04

Iam was so grateful for your post.

Clipped <proffers hand to shake> smile

Sorry it took me so long to articulate what Iam said.

smile

OutragedFromLeeds Sat 24-Nov-12 03:20:07

'she was a human being with family and friends who loved her. she had an amazing talent'

If that's the new criteria for a statue we're not going to be able to move for statues soon!

IAmSoFuckingRock Sat 24-Nov-12 03:24:20

it's enough criteria for whoever is paying for it. if there are rules against it then report to the relevant authority.

you didn't love her. we get it. that's not an issue for those that did.

ClippedPhoenix Sat 24-Nov-12 03:24:42

Its better than a seal holding a ballon, its better than jelly beans in the middle of hyde park, at least its a talking point and us as parents can actually talk about it if it's there.. I cant really say much about jelly beans

MollyMurphy Sat 24-Nov-12 03:25:14

Well I'll man up and agree with you OP....

she was only 28, not exactly a lifetime of contributions and not much of a role model either. Talented - yes, a human-being - yes, tragic - yes....but surely that is a rather wide category.

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