To buy a product aimed at 2-3 yr olds for DSS (6)?

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spg1983 Mon 19-Nov-12 20:54:36

DSS stays with us every Fri and Sat night. DH and I are both full-time teachers so term time is pretty full-on.

DSS is lovely but has always been a very early riser. Normally he'll wake up before 6 and we've imposed a rule of not coming into our room before 7am, where he sits on our bed and watches TV whilst we snooze. We live in a 3 storey house so am not happy for him to go to lounge on his own and watch TV 2 floors below us, and he has no TV in his room - we don't want to change this.

In the past, he's been good at either settling himself back down to sleep or playing quietly until 7am when we go and check on him and bring him upstairs but recently he's really struggled with time, waking up earlier and also not settling back down to sleep - he is getting very tired and it's taking it's toll on all of us.

I've heard of a "gro-clock" which has some great reviews with people saying it's helped their child to adapt to more sensible timings and helped them to understand it's still "sleep time" without waking up the rest of the family. However I've not seen it reviewed by people with children older than 4. WIBU to buy it anyway and give it a go? Mornings are horrible at the moment with DSS up at crazy-o-clock, I'm struggling with sleep anyway at 6.5 months pregnant and by the evening DSS is flagging by 5pm and DH and I are finding it hard to stay awake too!

imnotmymum Wed 21-Nov-12 08:24:40

Point taken here but just all snuggle for cuddle, he will feel safe and warm and you sleep !!

mrskeithrichards Wed 21-Nov-12 08:14:02

I think it would be useful to speak to mum, if there's such a big difference between what he does at home and what he does with you.

RedHelenB Tue 20-Nov-12 18:10:28

If you are having a baby you will be getting up anyway no doubt _ problem solved!!

Personally my ds at just turned 6 is capable of going downstairs & switching tv & wii on so why not let dss do it? Or when my kids were younger i would put a vdeo on in my bedroom & snooze for an extra half hour 0- 1 hour.

MerryMarigold Tue 20-Nov-12 17:57:28

I guess the answer then it is to do things which are really tiring! How about his Dad takes him for a jog. Have you tried a very active Saturday and see if he sleeps longer, including some brain activity too like homework/ puzzles etc. Otherwise, it may just be that he is in a place he is not so 'used' to, getting used to the bed etc. Is he with you on Mon morning or does he get up early at his Mums on Monday? Also, don't know if this was mentioned, but do you have blackout blinds?

I am less inclined to think stress about baby if generally he sleeps longer the tireder he gets. With my ds, he generally gets up earlier if he is overtired/ over excited, and the wake-up times get earlier over the term as it is stress related (I believe).

spg1983 Tue 20-Nov-12 17:48:22

No worries imnot, point taken but I promise you that time with Dad at 5am is NOT quality time...I go downstairs at 7 and find DSS watching TV and DH asleep on the sofa! At least at 7 we are all feeling human and can stay awake throughout the day.

And with regard to going downstairs- the lounge is 2 floors below us and I just worry that if anything were to happen, I wouldn't hear. Plus all of DSS' toys are in his room (it's really big and he has more space to play there than anywhere else in the house) so there's nothing down there that he'd want anyway.

megandraper Tue 20-Nov-12 12:13:55

my 5yo still uses his Groclock - in fact it didn't work for us at all until he was 5.

Mrsjay Tue 20-Nov-12 12:12:21

wee bit Harsh that nobody wants to get up at 6 am it is ok for him to stay in bed for a while then have all day with his dad

imnotmymum Tue 20-Nov-12 12:10:01

He stays with you a couple of nights and having not seen Dad all week and he not allowed in before 7. Sorry to sound harsh OP but poor thing probably wants some Dad time.

Mrsjay Tue 20-Nov-12 12:09:30

get him an alarm clock with his charcater of choice set the alarm for 7 and then he knows when it is time to get up

gotthemoononastick Tue 20-Nov-12 12:06:15

I use one of these (whispers am in my 6th decade) it.Also had a tiny pink spotted doll's china teaset in a little basket from Dh for my 60th!!!Age is only a number!

SooticaTheWitchesCat Tue 20-Nov-12 11:22:37

Ages are just a guide on these things, I often buy things that have a younger age on if I know my children will like them.

socharlotte Tue 20-Nov-12 09:49:30

I am a bit concerned that at 6 you can't trust him to go downstairs and watch alone!!

12ylnon Tue 20-Nov-12 09:44:41

DS is 6 and has one of these:
When we first started using it, we stuck a post-it with the time he was allowed to get up on it and set the alarm. Now he just knows.
At the age of 6, he really should be encouraged to tell the time.

thebody Mon 19-Nov-12 23:04:28

All of my 4 slept 7 till 7 at the age of 6.. They needed it.

This clock sounds fab so get it.

Of course it won't do him any harm to be told to not disturb you till 7 for goodness sake.. Some cods on here... He could play quietly in his room or look at books. All of mine did. It's called boundaries.

foreverondiet Mon 19-Nov-12 22:54:06

My DS1 had at a digital clock since age 5. We put a sticker above the hour number and told him he can't get out of bed until that number is a 7, and at weekends better if its an 8!! Its a cheapo alarm clock from argos, probably cost less than £5 (doesn't even have a radio) and we have never once set the alarm. You could even put black masking tape over the other numbers.

spg1983 Mon 19-Nov-12 22:39:22

And yes I agree that 12 hours is a lot but he really struggles to function on much less than that...but for some reason keeping him up late doesn't push the 12 hour stint back, it just shortens it so that he's grumpy and emotional the following day!!

spg1983 Mon 19-Nov-12 22:36:22

So to sum up, Tues - Sat normally 6:30ish, sometimes earlier, Sun/Mon earlier than that - 5ish.

spg1983 Mon 19-Nov-12 22:34:55

Yeah I guess he could be described as quite a sensitive little soul! Having spoken to his mum, she has said that 6:30 is average for a school day but does tend to fluctuate depending on how far through the term he is, i.e. the further through term we are, the later he'll wake up as his tiredness increases. She was the one who suggested that the early Sun/Mon wake-ups are to do with the fact that Sat/Sun are more relaxed days - apparently after a day of school, he is absolutely shattered.

When we pick him up on a Fri, he often falls asleep in the car on the way home (4pm) and we then wake him up to feed him but after dinner he'll ask to go to bed as he's so tired. Saturday is a totally different story though - he'll wake up slightly later but is often reluctant to go to bed at 7, then is up at a really early time on Sunday morning.

It's very strange...good to discuss these things though as it's always better to address the cause rather than just the symptoms.

MerryMarigold Mon 19-Nov-12 22:25:28

(12 hours is a lot for a six yr old i think. My 4 yos get 11 hrs).

MerryMarigold Mon 19-Nov-12 22:23:48

Is his sleeping normal in week at home? 6.30 is not really silly o clock! When my ds is going through bad patch it is 6 then 5.30 then 5 and has even been 4am on the odd occasion. That is clearly stress related. If he goes to bed at 6.30 and gets up at 6.30 during week but he gets up much earlier at yours then i would imagine it is stress even if it is just the change of bed/bedroom especially if he is quite emotional and sensitive.

spg1983 Mon 19-Nov-12 22:09:50

As far as I can tell, he's not stressed about the baby - he's really excited and one of the first things he does in the morning is come to say hello to the baby and try to feel it kick...I often get woken up by him kissing and talking to my tummy! Will keep that thought in mind though merry.

He has struggled particularly since the clocks changed - not sure if that's common. We have tried putting him to bed later when he's not seemed too tired and it's made no difference whatsoever to the mornings - the boy's like a human alarm clock! Only consequence was that he is so much better after 12 hrs sleep - he has been pretty grouchy after late nights as he still gets up really early the next day.

MerryMarigold Mon 19-Nov-12 22:04:16

My ds has gone through phases of early waking. He is usually stressed about something. Is your dss stressed about baby? We started putting him to bed later which definitely helped. He was 7 yesterday and goes to bed at 9 then up at 7. This helps us all inc my other 2 young children who he used to wake up.

maddening Mon 19-Nov-12 22:00:51

I say sod practise - if it helps you get some sleep in advance then go for it smile

I had pg insomnia and everyone kept saying it was practise for the baby - 21 mths later he still doesn't sttn - so if you can get a few extra hours now then get them! You''ll have plenty of practise once your nb js here smile

PoohBearsHole Mon 19-Nov-12 22:00:19

Best thing we ever bought - it is great and it has an alarm if we were to need it, also has the ability just to have it as an on off thing.

Its brilliant.

LiegeAndLief Mon 19-Nov-12 21:57:10

Sorry, cross posted a bit about times. 5pm definitely not a normal bedtime for a 6yo (none that I know anyway). Mine is rarely asleep before 8:30, but he doesn't need much sleep (never has, and neither does his sister - yawn).

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