To think that 'black man's time' is a derogatory term?

(111 Posts)
ptangyangkipperbang Sat 17-Nov-12 16:56:34

I was listening to the radio yesterday and someone from JLS was being interviewed. There was a comment about him being late for something and the DJ said, "what are you on - black man's time?"
I was really shocked (as was teenage DS) and I emailed the programme controller.
I've received a reply saying he agrees if I'd tuned in half way through the programme I might have taken it out of context but "In no way was the term derogatory and the interview was very cheerful, positive and upbeat".

Am I guilty of being too PC?

Yes you are

TheLightPassenger Sat 17-Nov-12 16:58:25

I've never heard that expression before, but yanbu.

No, I think that sounds incredibly racist to me and seems to tap into that racist stereotype of 'lazy' black people.

I'd never heard it before until the concept was explained to me by a Ghanaian colleague who later become a very close friend.

Euphemia Sat 17-Nov-12 17:00:04

I've never heard the expression.

IslaValargeone Sat 17-Nov-12 17:00:08

I would probably be inclined to think of it as a harmless colloquialism like Cornish time, everything being 'dreckley'
Quite prepared to be told otherwise however, but I don't tend to jump to the conclusion that everything is racist or derogatory.

It's got frig all to do with 'lazy' Laurie

Purple2012 Sat 17-Nov-12 17:01:05

I've never heard the expression, but agree that now a days people should not use expressions like that.

ArthurandGeorge Sat 17-Nov-12 17:01:31

What is it supposed to mean?

ptangyangkipperbang Sat 17-Nov-12 17:02:57

Isla - I too rarely jump to the conclusion that something's racist or derogatory but this term just seemed 'wrong' but I do stand to be corrected, which is why I posted.

InNeedOfBrandy Sat 17-Nov-12 17:03:01

Tbh it is a very common joke between black people. I wouldn't of found it offensive in fact whenever I'm late to drop dd off at her dads I get "kmt your not supposed to be on black peoples time" said in a joke way.

Rumplestiltskine Sat 17-Nov-12 17:03:24

I would assume the DJ was black himself, as I've only ever heard black people use that phrase.

TwitchyTail Sat 17-Nov-12 17:03:35

Was the DJ black?

I don't advocate the "people can be racist to each other as long as they're the same colour" approach in general, but I can sort of see that if this was the case, it could have been friendly in-jokey banter. If not, it's kind of dodgy territory...

TwitchyTail Sat 17-Nov-12 17:03:55

Cross-posts!

roundtable Sat 17-Nov-12 17:04:38

Yanbu - when are people going to stop attributing qualities to 'black people' as though they are a race?

Kethryveris Sat 17-Nov-12 17:04:40

manana.
in your own sweet time.
being laid back and in no hurry.

Kethryveris Sat 17-Nov-12 17:05:18

which radio channel was it?

JaquelineHyde Sat 17-Nov-12 17:05:50

It is a term I have heard used in black company as an in joke.

However, it is a ridiculous thing to say in an interview on the radio as large section s of the audience are not going to be in on the in joke and will quite easily take it the wrong way.

mamij Sat 17-Nov-12 17:06:32

Not sure. Our Australian and Brazilian friends are always late and we tease them that being chilled out and laid back is in their blood! Although we all know not all of them are!

InNeedOfBrandy Sat 17-Nov-12 17:07:03

Please don't ever turn into 1xtra OP I would hate for the banter to have to be curbed because of people like you.

IslaValargeone Sat 17-Nov-12 17:07:52

I wasn't having a go patangyang smile
I may well be guilty of being too laid back regarding that kind of expression?

missymoomoomee Sat 17-Nov-12 17:07:54

If the person he said it to wasn't offended I think its a bit much to get offended on his behalf. If you tuned in half way through how do you know it wasn't a joke about a previous comment?

FellatioNelson Sat 17-Nov-12 17:08:23

What does the phrase actually mean, can someone explain please. I have never heard it before.

TheCountessOlenska Sat 17-Nov-12 17:09:10

I've heard my friends say "Indian time" between each other (they are of Indian descent) - I take it to mean that punctuality is not seen in the same way as in English culture, like they are more relaxed about what time to turn up etc?? I too would assume the DJ was black and it was an "in" joke

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