To be shocked to learn that a teaching assistant take drugs at the weekend?

(236 Posts)
LesleyPumpshaft Tue 02-Oct-12 12:17:44

Like the thread title says. Found out she takes cocaine and E's when she her family have her kids, so does her boyfriend, the rest of the time she is a complete piss-head.

She has also kids and lots of people seem to like her. She has not been sacked, so is obviously doing her job at the school.

None of my business what she gets up to I know, but AIU or naive to be rather shocked by this revelation? confused

Oblomov Thu 04-Oct-12 17:03:02

GONE grin

AmberLeaf Thu 04-Oct-12 18:23:57

Iteotwawki and I are not saying that this doesn't happen, just that some posters are making out that it's common and happens all over based on their own experiences. The point I am making is that different people have different experiences and you cannot make a general point based on an experience which is purely anecdotal That is called generalisation and is not a good way to conduct a debate

FWIW my brother-in-law works in the cardiac department of a very busy hospital. He's worked in hospitals for roughly 25 years, in A&E and other departments as he's risen in ranks. He's never seen or heard of drug taking either

Anyone can tell tales. But these are third hand stories that mean nothing

Your experience is anecdotal too though!

I don't think I said it was rife? But it most certainly happens as several people have said here.

ilovetermtime Fri 05-Oct-12 11:58:49

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/164298.stm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1277955/Special-Investigation-Why-ARE-doctors-addicted-drink-drugs.html
http://www.treatmentsolutions.com/drug-abuse-among-doctors/

ilovetermtime Fri 05-Oct-12 11:59:11
THERhubarb Fri 05-Oct-12 12:52:06

Erm, Amberleaf would you mind not taking my quotes out of context please? I gave my experience as an anecdotal piece of evidence to illustrate how peoples experiences could lead them into one way of thinking or another.

I said that at the time.

Taking quotes completely out of context and holding them up to use for your own argument is also quite unacceptable. You will have to do better than that.

AmberLeaf Fri 05-Oct-12 13:57:27

How on earth is that quote out of context?

It is totally in context and also shows you did what you were criticising others for doing!

THERhubarb Fri 05-Oct-12 14:00:19

This is the full quote dear:

"These tales people tell of sordid and rife drug taking amongst professionals are purely anecdotal. It does not prove a thing. Your experience amongst the same profession is very different.

FWIW my brother-in-law works in the cardiac department of a very busy hospital. He's worked in hospitals for roughly 25 years, in A&E and other departments as he's risen in ranks. He's never seen or heard of drug taking either.

Anyone can tell tales. But these are third hand stories that mean nothing."

Read it again. I am illustrating that my story is a third hand story that means nothing. That is the point I am making. Everyone has experiences and they are all different, you cannot make a general point based on an experience.

Try reading the whole post next time.

Back2Two Fri 05-Oct-12 14:03:57

Personally I think that i would be more concerned about alcohol use (if heavy) during the week.

Drugs during the week too, but I think the OP siad the TA doesn't do this and it is totally possible to limit drug use and take them as responsibly as possible.

Getting pissed in the week would leave you tired, poor concentration, poor judgement and lacking in motivation.

AmberLeaf Fri 05-Oct-12 15:25:51

Rubbish Rhubarb!

You told your anecdotal story to back your opinion that it isn't as common as posters on here are saying it is.

You missed a bit too Iteotwawki - my point exactly remember? thats the part where you were agreeing with Iteotawki in that its not common, you then used your example of your BIL.

Don't backpeddle.

THERhubarb Mon 08-Oct-12 09:18:00

Give it a rest dear.

LadyClariceCannockMonty Mon 08-Oct-12 09:55:28

If she was arrested for possession at least she wouldn't be at the school any more to corrupt the children, or whatever you imagine she's doing, which seems to be the main concern amongst those throwing up their hands in horror on this thread.

As for shoplifting to pay for the drugs, well, I would venture to suggest that some people can afford to buy drugs without shoplifting for them. Although that might shatter the illusion some on this thread seem to hold that taking any kind of drug is automatically connected to having a seedy lifestyle. Which is presumably easier to deal with than the thought that people can give every impression of being 'normal', hold down jobs, have money etc and yet still take drugs in their personal time. Because where on earth would everyone be if you couldn't immediately identify and pour judgement upon someone who likes a bit of E and coke?

I'm also not sure why my views ought to be 'consistent' as you describe, Goldenbear, or why you seem to think that rule only applies to 'liberal thinkers'; are 'illiberal thinkers' permitted to have inconsistent views?

I wouldn't want anyone to take coke at my dinner table because it would be inappropriate; the general 'culture', for want of a better word, at the average dinner at my house doesn't involve drugs, or much alcohol for that matter, and anyone drinking a lot or taking drugs would be in a different mood/headspace to the rest, which wouldn't be much fun.

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