Teachers' dress code (or lack of one)

(133 Posts)
ProudNeathGirl Fri 28-Sep-12 23:28:48

DD (17) was sent home from sixth form earlier this week to change, because the coloured jeans she was wearing didn't comply with the dress code for sixth form students, which is "business dress"..
Fair enough - but the teacher who sent her home was wearing a beach type dress and denim jacket. Said teacher was today wearing leggings (also against rules for students).
Any kind of piercings apart from plain studs in the ear are also not allowed, but there is a student support manager lower down the school with five piercings in his face.

I don't think this is fair. AIBU?

MidniteScribbler Mon 01-Jul-13 02:02:42

We don't have a formal dress code for teachers, but I've not seen anyone looking inappropriate at work. I tend to wear long loose slacks most days and a variety of shirts/tops. I'll dress more formally when there are functions or parent-teacher nights on. Sometimes I wear a dressy maxi dress on a very hot day as it can get up to 40 degrees here in the summer. It's a beachside community (literally one street from the beach), so I do think that there is a slightly more casual vibe than you would find in an inner-city school.

Any parent that complained that we weren't wearing a suit would cop the eye roll. What do you expect us to wear when we're constantly moving around all day and sitting on the floor, kneeling, playing games, dancing, etc?

ProphetOfDoom Sun 30-Jun-13 23:02:32

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

PriyaKoothrappali Sun 30-Jun-13 22:42:36

Sorry, my point was about clothes not everything else.

EvilTwins Sun 30-Jun-13 21:27:33

I've taught in my current school since 2004. It's gone from Satisfactory into Special Measures and back up again to Good. I've always worn a suit and amazing shoes. Oddly enough, it had no bearing on OFSTED's judgement.

orangeandemons Sun 30-Jun-13 20:14:15

Our results are also outstanding.

Corporate wear on schools is a load of bollocks

orangeandemons Sun 30-Jun-13 20:13:17

I teach in a massive city comprehensive

Dress code is smart casual.

Head teacher wears maxi dresses and leggings. So do the staff

We are an Ofsted ( very recent under new criteria) outstanding school in every area there is to be judged on.

6th formers in suits is a joke.

It is not a business, nor a corporate institution. It is a collegiate place of teaching and learning. Therefore everyone needs to feel comfortable.

Staff in suits is stupid. Why?

kim147 Sun 30-Jun-13 20:08:17

I wouldn't count on it - but don't tell Gove.

marriedinwhiteagain Sun 30-Jun-13 20:04:13

I wonder if there's a correlation between schools with staff dress codes and schools being graded as outstanding. We only looked at outstanding schools - all the staff we saw were professionally dressed - not necessarily very formally dressed in suits but they were presentable and relatively conservatively dressed.

EvilTwins Sun 30-Jun-13 19:50:03

The thing is, most adults know what is appropriate. If you asked a group of professional adults to come in "extra smart" clothes, you can pretty much guarantee you'd get suits, smart, polished shoes, etc etc. Ask a group of teenagers to do the same...

(Thinking about annual "dress to impress" day when Yr 11s return after exams for their final assembly/speeches/ awards. Most interpret it as "dress to impress a member of the opposite sex in a nightclub" despite being told it's about looking like smartly dressed young adults)

kim147 Sun 30-Jun-13 19:49:01

It is unusual to have a school uniform anyway - I'm not sure if having smart well dressed students actually helps with results TBH. Schools in Europe are far more relaxed about what students wear.

marriedinwhiteagain Sun 30-Jun-13 19:45:09

I agree with the OP. I think teachers should have a professional dress code and should conform to it. They did at the dc's primary (and parents complained about spaghetti tops and flip flops) they do at the dc's independent day schools (and ds has looked gorgeous for the last couple of years in his smart suits and shirts) and they did at the london comp from which we removed dd.

Teachers are there to set standards and if they have none it is unreasonable to enforce rules for others just as I would not go to work in jeans and a tee shirt and expect my front line staff to be professionally dressed. And that doesnkt mean there is no romm for some sensible originality or panache.

Ultimately if teachers want parents to treat them with the respect they deserve as professionals they have to behave like professionals and set the standards for the children and teenagers for whom they are responsible and have to ensure comply With the rules.

sameoldIggi Sun 30-Jun-13 19:44:18

Ok Priya, most teachers have a rule to put hands up before answering a question. So, you think the teacher should put their hand up too?

ukatlast Sun 30-Jun-13 19:35:49

Quote Merylstrop: 'Well coloured jeans would be totally acceptable in the business I work in

Business dress...what a weird concept'

Exactly all school uniform is a weird outdated concept alongside the dropping of formality in the 'real world'. In the private sector 5 year olds in ties and blazers when their parents wear jeans in the real world.

My school in 1970s was sensible enough to not pick fights over dress for sixth formers. Education is not compulsory beyond a certain age therefore -health and safety/indecency excepted - it should be ok to wear whatever you please.
The only good thing about uniform is not having to think what to wear each day and levelling down effect but by 6th form these are irrelevant and it is important for people to be able to express their individuality to some extent just like they will at University.

formicadinosaur Sun 30-Jun-13 19:24:58

I don't think staff have a dress code usually. I can understand that there is one for students. Makes sense.

EvilTwins Sun 30-Jun-13 19:13:25

"If you set rules, follow them yourself" seriously??? In a school?

Better not go in the staffroom tomorrow then - kids aren't allowed in.

PriyaKoothrappali Sun 30-Jun-13 19:09:05

You had to have shirts tucked in at my school whichof course no ne wanted to do, so the teachers always set an example and adhered to the school rules. It's simple I think. If you set rules, follow them yourself. So, YANBU.

sameoldIggi Sun 30-Jun-13 18:18:21

I think "blossom on show" sounds rather nice, maybe the school was in Chelsea?

Alisvolatpropiis Sun 30-Jun-13 17:53:05

gonna but part of being an adult is doing things because you are told to by a superior at work,not because you want to or because you think it is "fair".

The rules of this particular 6th form were known before the op's daughter chose to go there. It's not as though it's a massive surprise.

Gonnabmummy Sun 30-Jun-13 17:06:44

I don't think 17/18 years olds should be compared to as children in this sense. I definitely didn't think of myself as a child 2 years ago in 6th form and to us the best bit of it was not wearing uniform. Everyone keeps referring to primary sort of age OP says 6th form. You are expected to act like adults therefore the adults should too.

kim147 Sun 30-Jun-13 16:47:32

I know this is a Zombie thread but as a supply teacher, it is interesting to see the different approaches to appearance in a primary school.

Some are very relaxed. Leggings and tunic tops are common. Jeans and tops for TAs. Even the Head was very relaxed in what she was wearing.

Some are a lot smarter - I don't think there's dress codes but everyone seems to dress smarter.

Heartbrokenmum73 Sun 30-Jun-13 16:47:10

I can top every last story of inappropriate dress on here. I worked at an FE college for awhile. I was an IT Tutor and we were told in our department we had to dress professionally. I didn't have an issue with that.

The Art department, however, had no such rules and one particular Tutor used to regularly turn up at this time of the year in tiny denim cut-off shorts, obviously hand-made by just cutting the legs off jeans. They would be teamed with either a grubby t-shirt or a waistcoat, hanging open, with NOTHING underneath it. It was a man. He had longish shaggy hair and fancied himself as the totty of the college. It was both cringeworthy and highly inappropriate.

BoneyBackJefferson Sun 30-Jun-13 16:42:26

unless the uniform cam in during the last year YABU

If you and your DD are so against uniform why didn't she go to a college instead of a 6th form?

To those advocating uniforms for teachers are you prepared to pay for it?

ChippingInWiredOnCoffee Sun 30-Jun-13 13:54:39

ProudNeathGirl are you still around? What is DD up to now & did the school change their staff dress code??

Roshbegosh Sun 30-Jun-13 13:26:49

You have to put up and shut up, or change schools. She is a pupil, get over it.

EndoplasmicReticulum Sun 30-Jun-13 13:25:19

I am a teacher, I wouldn't wear a beach-type dress and denim jacket to school. I wouldn't wear leggings either (don't wear them generally, as I am following the "if you are old enough to have worn them first time round" rule).

I also take out most of my earrings for school, and won't be dyeing my hair pink until the school holidays.

I usually wear trousers shirt and a jacket, put a labcoat over the top if I'm likely to get covered in gunk.

I definitely have "school" clothes and home clothes, I think you do need to make a bit of an effort to look vaguely professional.

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