To ask a blind woman to pick up her dog's poo near the school gate?

(119 Posts)
AdventuresWithVoles Tue 19-Jun-12 12:38:44

Actually, I didn't have the nerve to ask, and I can't be 100% sure it was her dog thought the circumstantial evidence was quite compelling.
If it happens again, wwyd?

tangerinefeathers Tue 19-Jun-12 12:39:27

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

takingiteasy Tue 19-Jun-12 12:39:35

I've never thought of this. I'm assuming it was a guide dog?

CaramelTree Tue 19-Jun-12 12:40:53

Guide dogs are exempt from dog fouling laws.

Treblesallround Tue 19-Jun-12 12:41:12

I wonder if they cover this issue when teaching people to work with their guide dog?

LadySucre Tue 19-Jun-12 12:42:07

Well how is the poor woman going to see if her dog has poo'ed ffs. And how can she pick it up?

Leave her alone.

CaramelTree Tue 19-Jun-12 12:42:11

The dogs are trained to poo at home, supposedly.

GrahamTribe Tue 19-Jun-12 12:42:45

How about you have a heart and do it for her?

Wheresmycaffeinedrip Tue 19-Jun-12 12:43:01

I'd probably just ask if she had a poop bag even guide dogs have to go and if she can't see it then guess she won't know it's been done. Then I'd either help her pick it up or offer to do it myself. smile

redrubyshoes Tue 19-Jun-12 12:43:03

I think being blind would absolve her of that duty or maybe she should not be allowed near schools?

AdventuresWithVoles Tue 19-Jun-12 12:43:44

Guide dog, owner was about 40' past the crowded pavement where poo was, when I realised it must be her dog that left the (extremely fresh still glistening in the sun hadn't been there 5 minutes earlier nobody else walking a dog nearby) lumps of poo.

I don't know this lady at all, just seen her around a few times. She was escorting a small child, I think to preschool around the corner.

I know guide dogs are supposed to give signals they need to go, or only go on command, I guess her dog was having a bad day? I did wonder if I should have picked it up myself, but don't think that's a good long term solution esp. as I think she passes by school frequently.

pumpkinsweetie Tue 19-Jun-12 12:43:47

Just leave it, as you cant be sure it was even her dog and she would not have seen it anyway

GrahamTribe Tue 19-Jun-12 12:43:51

And FYI guide dogs are (I understand) trained not to shit in public places/on lead situations so it probably wasn't even her dog anyway.

CaramelTree Tue 19-Jun-12 12:44:07

She doesn't have to pick it up. She is exempt under the law.

If you want to pick it up, that is your choice.

Why you would talk to her about it, I don't know.

Ormiriathomimus Tue 19-Jun-12 12:44:57

How would she see it to pick it up? Or perhaps she should just feel around on the pavement until she encountered it.....

AdventuresWithVoles Tue 19-Jun-12 12:45:00

Maybe she needs to know the dog has had an accident, can't be relied on to poo when & how it's supposed to?

ZuzuandZara Tue 19-Jun-12 12:45:36

How exactly do you think she might do this? Scrabble around on the ground until she finds it? Or you could guide her hand? Or you could pick it up.....

Birdsgottafly Tue 19-Jun-12 12:46:43

"I wonder if they cover this issue when teaching people to work with their guide dog"

Yes they do. Guide dogs can be rejected just for being unable to toilet on command and before and after a walk.

They are exempt, in that owners who are 100% blind will not get fined.

Most people still have some sight and could tell if their dog has toileted, they are taught to pick it up and the diet caters for it to be solid.

I wonder if she had to attend an appointment which ment the dog was out of routine, or the dog is unwell.

I would have told her that her dog toileted, incase she didn't realise and the dog isn't well, but have dealt with it myself.

QueenOfMuppets Tue 19-Jun-12 12:47:30

Guide dogs are trained to only poo on command; if you didn't see the dog doing it then it's not that likely to have been them....

i found myself getting dirty looks once when waiting outside a shop with a dog; took me a few mins to realise that I was in the vicinity of a dog turd that someone else had left behind and they were all assuming it was me that had left the poo near the supermarket door- I moved away quite fast when I twigged!!

and if it was a case of a totally desperate guide dog having an 'accident' then she may not have had bags etc with her as she wouldn't be expecting it to go...

ZuzuandZara Tue 19-Jun-12 12:47:40

Or maybe the preschooler could pick it up? grin

Or you could give her a break.

Birdsgottafly Tue 19-Jun-12 12:48:41

"Guide dog, owner was about 40' past the crowded pavement where poo was"

You don't know that it was her and the dog wil be well trained around that routine.

Unless you see it, do not mention it, otherwise it is just picking on a disabled woman.

redrubyshoes Tue 19-Jun-12 12:48:53

So she is blind. You now want to have a word with her about her highly trained dog that she probably very attached to and relies on totally being 'unreliable'.

Would you feel the same if it pooed on any other pavement and not by a school? Think of the children!

<clutches pearls and faints>

Get a bag and pick it up.

NotaDisneyMum Tue 19-Jun-12 12:49:50

Guide dogs are exempt from fouling laws, they are trained to go 'on command' but they are living, breathing creatures and sometimes it happens.

The idea that you would make a point and ask a guide dog owner to clear up after their dog horrifies me though - they would likely be really embarrassed and it would dent their confidence enormously sad

Surely there was a dog owner at the school gate with a poo bag they could have used?

GrahamTribe Tue 19-Jun-12 12:49:56

that's nteresting information and good to know, thank you Birds.

AdventuresWithVoles Tue 19-Jun-12 12:49:57

It was a freaky coincidence, then, Graham, extremely fresh mess and absolutely no-one else with a dog around nor would they normally be. And who else but a blind woman concentrating on a small child would completely not notice big lumps of poo left by her dog in middle of pavement?

I think if I were blind & had guide-dog, I'd want to be as responsible as I could be about its mess. Also, she herself was at high risk of stepping in it later in day if that was her usual route! (Do the dogs have the sense to see their own lumps of poo as obstacles?) What about when her child (grand child, I suspect, actually) is older & comes thru school gates daily?

Neah, I think she needs to know her dog wasn't on form, before it becomes a chronic habit.

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