To think the BBC thinks it is the mouthpiece of the Monarchy

(50 Posts)
kim147 Fri 01-Jun-12 07:55:42

So had the TV on for an hour. We've had Prince Charle's videos of the Queen.

"Lovely pictures, what a great lady" from the presenters.

Then we've just had a report on the bunting - because we are all behind the Monarchy.

Followed by a report on the trees being planted for the Jubillee.

I understand some people are being killed in Syria and the BBC is a news organisation. It's like North Korea.

I wonder if there is something in the BBC policy about not being allowed to criticise the Queen.

CaveMum Fri 01-Jun-12 08:00:58

BBC Breakfast is not a news programme, it is a magazine show just like Daybreak/GMTV/whatever they're calling it these days.

kim147 Fri 01-Jun-12 08:10:25

Well we've just had the presenter live from the Palace with comments from the Archbishop of Canterbury praising this wonderful lady. The presenter then said I am sure we will have more tributes to this amazing lady.

Are we living in North Korea?

If the BBC acted the same towards any other institution or any other thing they supported, I think they would be rightly criticised.

Figgygal Fri 01-Jun-12 08:16:03

I think that yanbu re: their gushing and fawning but all media is as guilty of this as the beeb especially when you read of the terrible things (and positive things) which go relatively unreported in the world.

BUT Why would does that mean they have to criticise her? what do they have to criticise a 80+ year old woman who has done a wonderful job serving her country. I think she should be celebrated and at the end of the day the coverage you've experienced this morning will be typical for the next 5 days of say avoid the news until Wednesday if you don't like it.

It is their coverage of the Olympics which is pissing me off

flatpackhamster Fri 01-Jun-12 08:16:18

Is there, or is there not, an 'off' button on your TV? If you hate the monarchy that much then perhaps you should hide this weekend, because those of us who love it - which is the majority - will be having heaps of fun.

TanteRose Fri 01-Jun-12 08:19:17

just like North Korea...apparently their news this morning was just "the Queen this" "Her Maj that", "royal blah" "Jubilee whevs"...

grin

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos Fri 01-Jun-12 08:19:46

I like watching the jubilee coverage, and I would be pissed off if all they ever talked about was news in other countries. The jubilee is a big event in this country, its right that the BBC is covering it. The BBC has a rolling news channel, and I'm sure Syria and the like will be on there.

flatpackhamster Fri 01-Jun-12 08:19:50

kim147

Are we living in North Korea?

It's this sort of crass hyperbole that makes it impossible to take republicans seriously.

Northey Fri 01-Jun-12 08:20:59

Well it kind of is, in that it's the state broadcasting service and she's head of state.

squeakytoy Fri 01-Jun-12 08:22:17

This jubilee is a major thing for the country. There will never be another in our lifetime, or in our children's lifetime either unless the family get wiped out, because Charlie wont make a diamond jubilee and neither will William..

kim147 Fri 01-Jun-12 08:30:49

I think North Korea refer to Kim Jung Il as "Our beloved leader" so I should be grateful it's not gone too far. Still - will we have tears from the presenters when the Queen dies?

Anyway - switched over to Frasier. And away this weekend.

kim147 Fri 01-Jun-12 08:32:27

@tante

"just like North Korea...apparently their news this morning was just "the Queen this" "Her Maj that", "royal blah" "Jubilee whevs"..."

Subsitute the Queen for Our beloved Leader.

smile

RandomNumbers Fri 01-Jun-12 08:39:17

no I do not see a comparison between this country and North Korea and you are being fatuous to attempt to make one

HTH

smile

kim147 Fri 01-Jun-12 08:41:42

I'm not comparing this country to North Korea.

I'm comparing the way the BBC actively supports the Monarchy and gives it a lot of airtime in the same way that a state broadcaster actively supports the head of state without question.

Big difference.

DogEared Fri 01-Jun-12 08:49:04

I think you have a very good point. Like it or not, an increasing percentage of Brits are questioning the idea of monarchy, and there are a lot of people who don't want to celebrate the jubilee. Of course we can switch off the TV when her maj comes on, but I do think that a lot of important news items are being shelved to make way for reminiscing about the last 60 years.
However, there was a fantastic discussion about the whole thing on BBC Radio Cymru (Welsh language) which was balanced and had arguments from both sides.

EightiesChick Fri 01-Jun-12 08:52:39

'It's like North Korea' you have made this comparison several times. No good backtracking and saying 'it's about media coverage', 'there's a big difference' now when you have laced the thread with the NK analogy.

Read this and you will see how fatuous and offensive a comment that really is.

I think you will find that all TV channels are, at the moment, for pretty obvious reasons, deploying unremittingly positive coverage of the Royals. You could say exactly the same about ITV, Sky, and I imagine many international news broadcasters. So I think this is really about just having a go at the BBC, on fairly flimsy grounds. Good day to you.

fedupofnamechanging Fri 01-Jun-12 08:55:57

Thing is though, people shouldn't have to turn off the tv. We pay for the BBC, whether we are watching it or not.

I've nothing against coverage of the Jubilee, but it is getting a bit much, when there are children being murdered in Syria. It's a question of priorities and the BBC have got theirs wrong.

Even in non jubilee years, there is a lot of simpering and fawning (under the guise of reporting).

fedupofnamechanging Fri 01-Jun-12 08:57:17

Oh, and agree that other channels also give too much coverage to something that isn't really news - the difference is that we have a choice whether to finance those channels.

kim147 Fri 01-Jun-12 09:06:11

@eightieschick

I knew what I meant so say when I mentioned North Korea - it was supposed to be a reference to the total adoration the broadcaster and the love the country is supposed to have for the Beloved Leader.

You do not need to explain to me what NK is like which I presume the link is. I've learnt on this forum that sometimes people interpret things in a way I never meant them to be interpreted.

I pay for the BBC - it is not supposed to be a mouthpiece and it would be nice to see some comments on those things the Monarchy have done which are controversial.

Did you know there is a Republican protest this weekend?

Did you know the police smashed up a Republican meeting before the wedding under anti-terrorist laws?

CogitoErgoSometimes Fri 01-Jun-12 09:35:51

YABU. BBC bulletins are full of stuff about Syria, the Euro crisis and other grim news. The R4 Any Questions being aired tonight is coming from Belfast... expect there will be a few anti-royal opinions on that. If the daytime magazine shows are going for a more positive slant, I think they're just capturing the national mood.

flatpackhamster Fri 01-Jun-12 10:51:07

karmabeliever

Thing is though, people shouldn't have to turn off the tv. We pay for the BBC, whether we are watching it or not.

I've nothing against coverage of the Jubilee, but it is getting a bit much, when there are children being murdered in Syria. It's a question of priorities and the BBC have got theirs wrong.

Even in non jubilee years, there is a lot of simpering and fawning (under the guise of reporting).

We all have to pay for the BBC. I have to pay for Eastenders and BBC Breakfast and about 5,000 other things I don't watch. I have to put up with the BBC uncritically reporting on 'climate change' as though it isn't just an excuse for psychotic wealthy ecomentalists to help themselves to all our money. I have to put up with Radio 4 hiring endless bloody marxist 'comedians' as though yet another decade of jokes about Thatcher is funny to anyone except the Socialist Worker's Party. I have to put up with Womyn's Hour and The Archers, and I have to put up with Radio 1 and Radio 2 and Radio 5 Live and Radio 6 and all the other things I hate. But I tolerate it and I don't bitch and whine about it just because it doesn't reflect my personal prejudices (except today, when I'm doing it to make a point).

So I think you should just suck it up. The monarchy remains popular outside Guardianworld. The Queen remains popular outside Guardianworld. And whether or not people are being murdered is irrelevant - they're always being murdered and bad people are always out there. The Jubilee is a very big deal so it should get a hefty amount of coverage.

PandaWatch Fri 01-Jun-12 10:59:27

"Did you know there is a Republican protest this weekend?

Did you know the police smashed up a Republican meeting before the wedding under anti-terrorist laws?"

The police "smashed up" a Republican "meeting"? Was that all it was going to be? Or was it going to be a distructive protest on the day of a young couple's wedding? I'm ambivalent towards the Royal family and all for the right to peaceful protest but trying to disrupt a wedding, whoever is getting married, is crass and pointless and would do the Republican's no favours.

fedupofnamechanging Fri 01-Jun-12 15:34:15

flatpackhamster, you say that the Jubilee is 'a very big deal'. I disagree. It is a news story, worthy of some coverage. But for many people it's really not that big a deal. i think the murder of innocent civilians is always going to be more relevant, whether it happens all the time or not.

Some people are pro monarchy and some are not. I take your point that not all programmes will appeal to all people. However, there does seem to be a prevailing idea on the BBC that we are all thrilled to bits and that is simply not true. Am not saying there should be no coverage - a bit of balance would be nice though.

JosephineCD Fri 01-Jun-12 15:40:51

Are ITV covering it? How about Sky?

roundtoit Fri 01-Jun-12 15:42:58

i think i may go and hibernate till after the jubilee, the euro football and the olympics because that is all we will get rammed down our throats .

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