Where is the fucking justice for Trayvon Martin? a 17 year old INNOCENT CHILD shot to death simply because he was walking in his father's gated community.

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chewchewmeaw Sat 17-Mar-12 19:10:18

Why in gods hell has that MURDERER not been arrested?

Are they looking for riots? they will happen if Zimmerman is not brought to justice. I am so sickened by this.

I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't heard this story yet - very slow in reporting it.

He was begging for his life': Family's anger as police finally play 911 calls made by neighborhood watch captain who shot black teen

Trayvon Martin,17, was shot dead by George Zimmerman, 28, last month, who claims the killing was self defense and has not been charged
Police finally gave into mounting pressure on Friday and released eight 911 calls
The teen's family say the calls show Zimmerman was the 'aggressor' not Trayvon


The police have finally released the 911 calls made in relation to the killing of an unarmed black teenager who was shot by a white neighborhood watch captain.
George Zimmerman, 28, had called 911 to report a suspicious man and can be heard pursuing Trayvon Martin, 17, on foot against the dispatcher's advice causing the teen to run away.
Moments later the police are bombarded with calls from terrified neighbors as a voice in the background can be heard desperately screaming for help before the sound of two gun shots.
When police arrived at Florida's Retreat at Twin Lakes Townhomes they found Trayvon, who had been returning from a store with candy for his younger brother, had been shot dead by Zimmerman.
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Trayvon Martin, 17, left, was killed by George Zimmerman, 28, right, after the neighborhood watch captain pursued him as walked in a gated community
Zimmerman had called 911 after spotting the teen walking through the gated community.
'This guy looks like he is up to no good. He is on drugs or something,' Zimmerman told the dispatcher from his SUV.
He added that the black teen had his hand in his waistband and was walking around looking at homes.

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'These a-------. They always get away,' Zimmerman said on a 911 call.
During Zimmerman's initial call, he told the dispatcher he was following Martin and the dispatcher told him, 'You don't need to do that.'
But Zimmerman sounds as if he continues to pursue the teen saying: 'He ran.'
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In Zimmerman's 911 call he said Martin, pictured, looked like he 'up to no good' and on drugs as the teen returned home with skittles for his brother
He then refuses to meet police officers at an agreed location and asks for them to call him on arrival instead so he can tell them where he is.
Sanford police officials, who have not charged Zimmerman after accepting his claim that his actions were in self defense, finally released eight 911 calls on Friday after mounting pressure.
Martin's family had demanded the release of the calls to help better understand how Martin died while walking home from a convenience store last month.
'He was yelling for help, and no one could help him. He saw his life being taken away from him,' the teen's father Tracy Martin said.
He said they will continue pushing for charges to be filed against Zimmerman.
'We’re hoping this doesn’t happen again to another family, and that America opens their eyes ... even though this won’t bring Trayvon back,
we don’t want there to be another Trayvon,' Mr Martin said.
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The teenager's parents; mother Sabrina Fulton, right, and father Tracy Martin, left, are said to be devastated after hearing the 911 calls of their son's last moments

Benjamin Crump, the attorney for Martin's family, said that the 911 calls show that the teenager spent the last few moments of his life terrified and Zimmerman should be charged
After listening to recordings of 911 calls, Martin's family said they're more convinced than ever that the Zimmerman should be charged with a crime.
'You hear a shot, a clear shot, then you hear a 17-year-old boy begging for his life,' said Natalie Jackson, the family attorney. 'Then you hear a second shot.'
The case has been turned over to the State Attorney's Office which can decide whether to file charges or present evidence to a grand jury.
Attorney Benjamin Crump, who is also representing the family, told reporters outside Sanford City Hall that Martin's parents both broke down and cried as they listened to the recordings.
'They are completely devastated, and they are in unbelievable grief,' Crump said. 'The last seconds of his life were in absolute fear.'
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Martin was visiting his father and stepmother in Sanford where they live at The Retreat at Twin Lakes, pictured, when he popped out to buy snacks for his younger brother
He added that a third witness has come forward saying it was the boy who was crying for help.
Martin's parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, previously sued to have the recordings released. A hearing for the case had been scheduled for Monday.
Moments after Zimmerman's initial call, dispatchers were bombarded by seven 911 calls from frantic neighbors describing a fight between two men, screaming and then a gunshot.
'There is somebody screaming outside,' one female caller said, as an unknown male voice can be heard crying in the background. Then a shot is heard.
A male caller described a physical altercation between Martin and the shooter.
'I just heard a shot right behind my house,' The caller said. 'They're wrestling right behind my porch. The guy is yelling 'Help.' I'm not going outside.'

By the time police officers arrived, unarmed Trayvon, who had been carrying Skittles and soda, was dead on the ground from a single gunshot
Another woman said a man in a 'white top' was on top Trayvon.
Earlier on Friday, Martin's parents called on the FBI to take over the investigation, saying they no longer trusted the Sanford police department.
Sanford police Sgt. David Morgenstern said the department stands by its investigation but welcomes help from any outside agency. FBI agent David Couvertier said the agency has been in contact with Sanford police and is monitoring the case.
'We are committed to having somebody review this to see if we made a mistake,' said Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett. 'If we made missteps and there is something there, we will act accordingly'

Trayvon's family believe Zimmerman should be charged and brought to justice for shooting their young son
Several Sanford residents who spoke to The Associated Press said they think there would have been an arrest already if the shooter had been black and the deceased had been white.
They said blacks and whites in this city of 53,000 residents were pretty much in agreement that an injustice had been done with no one arrested, and that there was no racial divide in how the case is being perceived. The city is 57 percent white and 30 percent black.
Zimmerman's father delivered a letter to the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday, saying the way his son is being depicted in the media is cruel and misleading.
He also says his son has received death threats and moved out of his home. George Zimmerman is Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family, the statement says.

chewchewmeaw Sat 17-Mar-12 19:17:56

Trayvon Martin

“He said that Tray was gone.” That’s how Sybrina Fulton, her voice full of ache, told me she found out that her 17-year-old son, Trayvon Martin, had died. In a wrenching telephone call, the boy’s father, who had taken him to visit a friend, told her that Trayvon had been gunned down in a gated townhouse community in Sanford, Fla., outside Orlando.

“He said, ‘Somebody shot Trayvon and killed him.’ And I was like, ‘Are you sure?’ ” Fulton continued in disbelief. “I said ‘How do you know that’s Trayvon?’ And he said because they showed him a picture.”

That was Feb. 27, one day after Trayvon was shot. The father thought that he was missing, according to the family’s lawyer, Benjamin Crump, but the boy’s body had actually been taken to the medical examiner’s office and listed as a John Doe.

The father called the Missing Persons Unit. No luck. Then he called 911. The police asked the father to describe the boy, after which they sent officers to the house where the father was staying. There they showed him a picture of the boy with blood coming out of his mouth.

This is a nightmare scenario for any parent, and the events leading to Trayvon’s death offer little comfort — and pose many questions.

Trayvon had left the house he and his father were visiting to walk to the local 7-Eleven. On his way back, he caught the attention of George Zimmerman, a 28-year-old neighborhood watch captain, who was in a sport-utility vehicle. Zimmerman called the police because the boy looked “real suspicious,” according to a 911 call released late Friday. The operator told Zimmerman that officers were being dispatched and not to pursue the boy.

Zimmerman apparently pursued him anyway, at some point getting out of his car and confronting the boy. Trayvon had a bag of Skittles and a can of iced tea. Zimmerman had a 9 millimeter handgun.

The two allegedly engaged in a physical altercation. There was yelling, and then a gunshot.

When police arrived, Trayvon was face down in the grass with a fatal bullet wound to the chest. Zimmerman was standing with blood on his face and the back of his head and grass stains on his back, according to The Orlando Sentinel.

Trayvon’s lifeless body was taken away, tagged and held. Zimmerman was taken into custody, questioned and released. Zimmerman said he was the one yelling for help. He said that he acted in self-defense. The police say that they have found no evidence to dispute Zimmerman’s claim.

One other point: Trayvon is black. Zimmerman is not.

Trayvon was buried on March 3. Zimmerman is still free and has not been arrested or charged with a crime.

Yet the questions remain: Why did Zimmerman find Trayvon suspicious? Why did he pursue the boy when the 911 operator instructed him not to? Why did he get out of the car, and why did he take his gun when he did? How is it self-defense when you are the one in pursuit? Who initiated the altercation? Who cried for help? Did Trayvon’s body show evidence of a struggle? What moved Zimmerman to use lethal force?

This case has reignited a furor about vigilante justice, racial-profiling and equitable treatment under the law, and it has stirred the pot of racial strife.

As the father of two black teenage boys, this case hits close to home. This is the fear that seizes me whenever my boys are out in the world: that a man with a gun and an itchy finger will find them “suspicious.” That passions may run hot and blood run cold. That it might all end with a hole in their chest and hole in my heart. That the law might prove insufficient to salve my loss.

That is the burden of black boys in America and the people that love them: running the risk of being descended upon in the dark and caught in the cross-hairs of someone who crosses the line.

The racial sensitivity of this case is heavy. Trayvon’s parents have said their son was murdered. Crump, the family’s lawyer, told me, “You know, if Trayvon would have been the triggerman, it’s nothing Trayvon Martin could have said to keep police from arresting him Day 1, Hour 1.” Even the police chief recognizes this reality, even while disputing claims of racial bias in the investigation: “Our investigation is color blind and based on the facts and circumstances, not color. I know I can say that until I am blue in the face, but, as a white man in a uniform, I know it doesn’t mean anything to anybody.”

Zimmerman has not released a statement, but his father delivered a one-page letter to The Orlando Sentinel on Thursday. According to the newspaper, the statement said that Zimmerman is “Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family.” The paper quotes the letter as reading, “He would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever” and continues, “The media portrayal of George as a racist could not be further from the truth.” And disclosures made since the shooting complicate people’s perception of fairness in the case.

According to Crump, the father was told that one of the reasons Zimmerman wasn’t arrested was because he had a “squeaky clean” record. It wasn’t. According to the local news station WFTV, Zimmerman was arrested in 2005 for “battery on a law enforcement officer.”

Furthermore, ABC News reported on Tuesday that one of the responding officers “corrected a witness after she told him that she heard the teen cry for help.” And The Miami Herald published an article on Thursday that said three witnesses had heard the “desperate wail of a child, a gunshot, and then silence.”

WFTV also reported this week that the officer in charge of the scene when Trayvon was shot was also in charge of another controversial case. In 2010, a lieutenant’s son was videotaped attacking a black homeless man. The officer’s son also was not initially arrested in that case. He was later arrested when the television station broke the news.

Although we must wait to get the results from all the investigations into Trayvon’s killing, it is clear that it is a tragedy. If no wrongdoing of any sort is ascribed to the incident, it will be an even greater tragedy.

One of the witnesses was a 13-year-old black boy who recorded a video for The Orlando Sentinel recounting what he saw. The boy is wearing a striped polo shirt, holding a microphone, speaking low and deliberately and has the heavy look of worry and sadness in his eyes. He describes hearing screaming, seeing someone on the ground and hearing gunshots. The video ends with the boy saying, “I just think that sometimes people get stereotyped, and I fit into the stereotype as the person who got shot.”

And that is the burden of black boys, and this case can either ease or exacerbate it.



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UtherTheTerrible Sat 17-Mar-12 19:18:17

I've been reading about this on MSNBC for a while and it's chilling, really awful.

"unarmed Trayvon, who had been carrying Skittles and soda, was dead on the ground from a single gunshot"

This makes me so sad and angry. He goes to get some sweets and spends the last moments of his life afraid and calling for help that didn't come in time. It's sick. He did nothing wrong.

KalSkirata Sat 17-Mar-12 19:25:04

have you got a link?

rhondajean Sat 17-Mar-12 19:28:24

How awful and ironic, to buy a home in a gated community, no doubt in the thought that it would keep your children's safe to do so, and this happens.

bochead Sat 17-Mar-12 19:34:07

The calls should be broadcast to the media together with a clear photograph of the murderer.

Yes he should be charged with murder - he ignored the advice of the 911 despatcher and acted as a vigilante. The law either applies to all or to none.

If it is not seen to apply to this man, then expect the consequences to reverbarate through the community in future. Blacks should no longer leave their homes unarmed or in groups less than two. One to shoot and one to act as a witness. They should also be allowed to walk free as the legal precendent that an individual can be judge, jury and executioner has now been set in this locale. That's not a future locale for any rationale human being to live in.

Why hasn't he been arrested

Because the killer is whita and has played it clever and the victim is black (so naturally up to no good).

chewchewmeaw Sat 17-Mar-12 19:34:21

globalgrind.com/news/trayvon-martin-911-tape-released-video

This world walking while black is a damn felony..

I am enraged.

chocolatespiders Fri 12-Jul-13 23:57:13

Jury is now out...

TabithaStephens Sat 13-Jul-13 00:26:42

I'd be amazed if Zimmerman is found guilty. The prosecution made a right pigs ear of the case, a lot of their witnesses were of more help to the defence.

CoolStoryBro Sat 13-Jul-13 00:42:22

Errr, isn't Zimmerman Hispanic?! So, although he is technically white, in American terms, he's Hispanic which is, sadly, pretty low down the racial food chain. He really won't get off because he's a white man against a black man.

It is a very complicated case with huge implications either way. I would not want to be on the jury on this one.

chocolatespiders Sat 13-Jul-13 09:09:34

Very hard job for the jury who are back in today. Some of the pictures shown of Trayvon were absolutely heartbreaking.. Poor family sad

Helena1964 Sun 14-Jul-13 03:14:37

Zimmerman was just found not guilty. I'm appalled, but not surprised.

Outside of the courthouse, some people are standing numbly in shock,

and others are very emotional. I've heard that the police have been put

on alert, in case of possible riots. Race relations here in the

US are going to be even more tense than usual. sad

mailremnants Sun 14-Jul-13 04:03:06

Good. It means the American justice system is doing their jobs.

Your buying into the media hype and witch hunt. Go read the actual facts of the case and you will see that all the forensic evidence support George Zimmerman version of events. That Trayvon approached him, pushed him down and slammed his head into the pavement multiple times. That the gun shoot wound could only be obtained if he was still on top of Zimmerman at the time. That Trayvon had a criminal record for a string of burglary and assaults in the neighborhood and was known to police.

He wasn't found guilty because they couldn't prove he was guilty beyond reasonable doubt and it will be a sad day when they just shrug their shoulders and throw people in prison regardless.

TabithaStephens Sun 14-Jul-13 04:10:16

I agree. Twitter is embarassing at the moment. So many people that clearly haven't followed the case, it was obvious weeks ago that Zimmerman was going to be found not guilty, and yet there's all this outrage.

harborhaze Sun 14-Jul-13 04:28:24

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spamm Sun 14-Jul-13 04:38:56

The evidence all pointed to Zimmerman likely telling the truth, or at least there being sufficient doubt that they could not find him guilty. Nobody really wins - a young man is dead and Zimmerman will have to live the rest of his life under a cloud of doubt. It is just very sad.

McGeeDiNozzo Sun 14-Jul-13 04:49:18

I try not to indulge in angry Facebook circlejerks. Are there any decent non-partisan links about this one?

That Trayvon had a criminal record for a string of burglary and assaults in the neighborhood and was known to police.

I have never read anything to this effect in all the press relating to the killing. Can you provide a link?

HappilyChatterly Sun 14-Jul-13 08:01:21

Trayvon's parents testified it was him screaming on the 911 call, just before the gun shots. Zimmerman's parents testified that it was him. The person screaming was the one in fear of his life, if it was Trayvon, it's cold blooded murder, if it was Zimmerman he may have had a genuine self defence claim. (in my opinion, he was older, armed and in persuit- who was more likely to be in fear of his iLife?!?!) the problem is, both sets of parents testimony created a stale mate. This was enough to create reasonable doubt, so Zimmerman walked free.

TidyDancer Sun 14-Jul-13 08:21:32

I gather that Zimmerman's wounds backed up his story. I don't think this needs to be about Trayvon Martin's past (if there is a criminal one). It is interesting that some want to make this about race though. Afaik the only person to have ever made a racially questionable comment was Trayvon, while on the phone to a friend. The death was obviously not about race.

Very very sad case with no good outcome for anyone.

Daisytunes Sun 14-Jul-13 08:32:54

dancer people believe it is about race because they don't believe Zimmerman would have followed a teenage white boy. Just as you are less likely to be stopped and searched by the police in this country if you are a teenage white boy rather than a teenage black boy.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that he went out looking to commit racially aggravated murder, but he wouldn't have been interested in Trayvon had he been white.

Flojobunny Sun 14-Jul-13 08:44:36

It's interesting that the first question the dispatcher asked Zimmerman on the phone is if the other one was white, Hispanic or black. How is that relevant to the dispatcher?

RhondaJean Sun 14-Jul-13 08:50:03

New York times is reporting Martin had no criminal record?

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